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Gallery Misplacements

=karemelancholia:iconkaremelancholia: reports, March 10, 2007
--pre-introduction : i encourage the admins to correct the typos under, i'm french so you need to excuse my english!-- :smile:


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. Introduction .

I'll here speak in my OWN name; even if i know that i'm not alone in this matter (believe me!!!)!
I'll talk about one gallery in particular but keep in mind that all what i say is valid for other galleries!!

As many of you i'm fed up, bored to see all the "deviations" put in the photomanipulation gallery and that are NOT photomanipulations.
Here it is : adding a title, framing, changing contrast, enhancements, blur etc... are not PHOTOMANIP!!!
And lot of people take photos add a frame and basta, let's go to the photomanip gallery. It's not fair.
I'm NOT pointing at anyone, i'm NOT here to blame you but to give tips, guidelines and directions.

Who is she to speak like that, you are thinking.
I'm a photomanipulator, an intermediate more exactly. And i value a lot this COMMUNITY (deviantART).
First please keep in mind that dA is not a simple online gallery to expose your creations, it's a community with various talents.
And as a community, it is built and get its reputation/popularity (famous and recognized) thanx to US, deviant. That's us who make dA.
There are galleries that are more popular than the others (esp. Photo and digital Galleries -but not only, each gallery is important don't misread me i mean the ones that have the most numerous submissions-), these ones gather many new deviants each day, and submitting non-appropriate deviations to these galleries will DECREASE dA reputation, so OURS!
Think in that.
dA is what we make of IT!

Please just have a look at the photomanipulation gallery for example... That's a pity.
If during the last days you got one or several of your deviation replaced it is more than possible that it's because of my report.
Again i've nothing against anyone, i do not point at you. REPORTING IS NECESSARY AND ENCOURAGED, NOT ONLY BY ME BUT BY ADMINS, reading their journals and NEWS ARE MANDATORY!

So i'll mainly speak here about the Photomanipulation Gallery, as that's the one that concerns me, BUT this is also valid for the other categories!



. Guidelines : what is a PhotoManipulation? .

First lemme tell you that there are various kind of misplacements, various reasons for this : Lack of knowledge and the fact that somes of us don't pay attention to the categories.
This last reason is the most common and can easily be solved, just by opening your eyes. For example you take a photo of an animal and you place it in the Nature subcat. biiiiiiiip wrong. This is valid for as well as the photography category or the photo one. But such errors are really numerous in every Gallery.
The second is the reason is why i'll specifically speak for the photomanipulation gallery : lot of you don't understand what REALLY IS A PHOTOMANIPULATION.
I'm going to explain it to you, even if everything is written in the guidelines!


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- Where are these damn guidelines?

You find them when you submit your deviations.
Click on submit deviation as you are customed to do...


<click on the above thumb to get the full view>

Choose your category.


<click on the above thumb to get the full view>

You think it's a photomanipulation, then choose this category and subcat.
See under in the yellow window the link : "View Description".
Click on it if you're unsure. Don't mind you will not have to click each time, once you've read it you will have understood and you'll know it FOREVER!
You see here it is specified :
"Please, choose a category for your deviation. If you are unsure which one to pick, you can browse categories and read their descriptions to see if any is right for your deviation. A Gallery Director might move your deviation if it appears to be in the wrong category."


- So?? What is a photomanipulation?

If you followed the above steps you must know.


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And yes yes don't be shy, browse down.

Here are the complete guidelines :

"The Photomanipulation section is dedicated to digital photographs that have undergone post processing and/or editing via the use of a graphical imaging software. The extent of manipulation should be prominent and noticeable in ways where it can be clearly distinguishable from the unaltered photograph.

When submitting to Photomanipulation, keep in mind deviantART's policies regarding source image reuse. You must have explicit permission to use images that are not your own or are not stock images, no matter how much time you spend manipulating them. It is recommended that you also state if you've used your own pictures to avoid misconceptions.

Please Note : All images submitted to this section should be altered in such way that it is clear you have used techniques other than a filter and/or alteration in the colour of the original.
Rather than into the photomanipulation gallery, these pictures should be submitted to Photography or Digital Art > Miscellaneous.
Also note that drawing or writing on top of a picture does not constitute as a photomanipulation.
These deviations should go into Photography, Digital Art > Paintings & Airbrushing or the Cartoons & Comics sections for example.
Which category is best suited to your deviation depends on what technique dominates in your deviation.
If you have used a mixture of techniques, Digital Art > Miscellaneous.
Vectorized versions of your pictures belong into Digital Art > Vectors or Vexels respectively.
For more information on the nature of the other categories, please read their descriptions!
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This last is important, this is the definition of a photomanipulation.
What can i say more. This is really clear!
Using only plugins, filters that are included in your graphics programs, adding a frame, text, changing lights, colors etc does not make your creation a photomanipulation.
A photo is considered manipulated when you've used your lil hand to work on it : brush tool, mouse, digital pen etc...
A photomanupulation really is a hard work, we pass hours (not to say days for the most advanced of us) to create it.

Now you know you don't have excuses anymore! :lol:



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. Guidelines : how to make a report? .


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First the best you should do is to DEVWATCH your gallery director.
You can find Her/Him here : FAQ #18: Who selects the Daily Deviation and how is it chosen?
Like you'll be informed and be aware of any updates, news, guidelines...

Read this new article for a general explanation (and more) : [link]

- Why reporting?

This has nothing to do with denouncement as i told you in the introduction. Keep that in mind!
This is just about helping the community and our Admins/Gallery Directors keeping this site safe.
This is also a way to promote each one art! To value it!

I am tired of trying to find art and i just see miscat deviation, i report tonz of miscats because people just don't read, or don't care.

- how do I report?

Browse for art, choose a category,and look.
Click on the deviation you think is miscat.
Please FULL VIEW, read the author's Description. It is important to avoid errors, reporting real photomanipulations won't help.
We are NOT here to harrass people! Forget that!



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This is found at the right side of the deviation's description.



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Your message might be really simple such as :
"This is not a photomanipulation.
This must be replaced in the "xxx" category.
thanx.
"
If you know where the deviation must be replaced say it, but please indicate only the GALLERY DIRECTORY NOT the subcat!
For example "Photography", and not "photo > nature" etc...
And please don't get fussy over the sub-categories, reporting non-manips is greater than subcats misplacements!

- About the other types of violations :

Don't forget them!
Copyright/policy/etiquette violations needing to be reported as such because Gallery Directors need to hand those over!



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Promote this cause as it is yours!
I summon you to fave this article and other related topics. Nothing to with my own popularity but with the IMPORTANCE of this topic!
Link this article, or my journal entry ([link]), copy, paste, spread the WORLD!!!!!!!!

So read the gallery descriptions, and follow dA guidelines, and respect US!!!

Really... i mean it...

Kare aka =karemelancholia

Devious Comments


*AcidicGlamour:iconAcidicGlamour: Mar 10, 2007, 12:16:50 PM Mood: Pleased
:faint: i'm so glad for this! i've noticed for a while now that people submit to the wrong gallery! ..and it's frustrating!

that stamp is def going in my journal :highfive:


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`Elandria:iconElandria: Mar 10, 2007, 12:20:49 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Thats a spot on report! Its got to the point now where I actually ask people to remove "manips" they have done using my stock where all they have changed is the hue/saturation etc...

I really think DA should have the category descriptions then and there when you are submitting, not tucked away behind another link... the average Deviant is lazy... and they don't wait for information to be loaded, nor do they bother clicking on extra links. :(

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~environment:iconenvironment: Mar 10, 2007, 12:42:09 PM
:clap: I have to clap too! I understand this very well! Let's act together!
Diana :hug:

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=bitchinblack:iconbitchinblack: Mar 10, 2007, 1:36:09 PM
YES YES YES!! It is about time someone made an article like this. I am so sick and tired of morons submitting their over-contrasted, no skill "art" into the photomanip category when it doesn't belong there.

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*invisibly-touched:iconinvisibly-touched: Mar 10, 2007, 2:11:24 PM
I know I'm new here, but I agree 100%. It's the one thing that was really bothering me about the gallery. Being new, I also felt weird about posting my stuff because of my skill level, but I didn't find a beginners gallery.
I'm thinking popularity in the site comes from its reputation, and is something that has been built on and should be respected in a community this size or it will cease to be a place where skilled artists want to put thier work or share their knowledge.
Perhaps when new artists join that article should be incorporated into a welcome note, before a password is issued.
=eldris:iconeldris: Mar 10, 2007, 2:22:41 PM
Thank you so much for this article! I hope people read it :D

I'd put the stamp in my journal, but i had something moves once x_x There wasnt a section for insects under macro photography so i put it under animals. Apparently it should have gone under misc :roll:

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`kuschelirmel:iconkuschelirmel: Mar 10, 2007, 2:24:32 PM
we are currently working with IT on a solution for this problem.
It is a bit more complicated than just making the text visible though: if the text is loaded with the category selector, it occassionally is just that bit too much for lower bandwidth connections to handle and the submission process freezes. But as I said, we're on it :aww:

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`kuschelirmel:iconkuschelirmel: Mar 10, 2007, 2:27:14 PM
we do not categorize by skill level because skills and the "quality" of ones work can be a very subjective thing at times - so we rather have everything in one gallery. If your deviations fit the respective gallery's description, don't be afraid to upload it :aww:

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`CapnSkusting:iconCapnSkusting: Mar 10, 2007, 2:30:01 PM
Well done!
Both stamps now in my journal!

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`kuschelirmel:iconkuschelirmel: Mar 10, 2007, 2:35:45 PM
:w00t: :love:

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