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Should we or should we not correct photos?

*Cyberworld-Arts:iconCyberworld-Arts: reports, July 27, 2007
Well this is something that has been bothering me for a while. Is it ethical to do post-work on photography? Is it ok to correct your photos before displaying them to the public?

The Traditional View

Most traditional photographers i guess they'd say that it is, because indeed you can take a perfect photo without post-work. But that requires some things like:
a. Skills: Not everyone knows how to configure his/her camera settings so that he is sure that the photo will be like he wants it.
b. Talent: Not everyone is a talented photographer in order to know what, when and how to take shots.
c. Knowledge: Not everyone knows photography techniques or the rules on color, light, shapes and composition.
d. Gear: Not everyone can afford good gear and the better gear you have the better photos you can take. Trust me the "it's not the camera that counts, it's the photographer" dogma is not always true. Indeed the person behind the machine is important but picture this: A great photographer on a Himalayas photography trip with a 15MP DSLR Camera with tripod and a good set of lenses (wide, tele, macro) and that some photographer on that same trip with a conventional 3MP Camera with no special lenses.
e. Time: Not everyone has the time to learn about photography and more importantly to practise in photography. Time can be really scarse when you work.
f. Luck: Not everyone is lucky enough to be to the right place at the right time.
g. Money: Well they do say that money moves the world. This applies on photography too. Indeed you can take nice shots where you live, but if you want that extraordinary then you need to travel, go places, see people and new things, broaden your vision. Travelling can be costly, as can be the maintanance of your gear. Especially if you are in traditional film, where the cost can go sky rocketting.

The New World

Well i've been thinking on the matter and concluded to the following:
- If a photo is meant to be for a competition then no photo correction is ethical, cause then you instantly gain an advantage over the rest of the people participating.
- If the photo is meant to be displayed for public display then photo correction is ok to be done, cause a photo needs to be attractive, to make the eye curious and attract the attention of the viewer.
- If the photo is meant to be printed then photo corrections are mandatory in order to achieve the best viewing pleasure result. Especially since each printer has different color profiles.
- If you are the home user that wishes to make your photos look a bit better either for you or your friends to see then i believe it's ok to do it.
- If at the time you took the shot you didn't have the advantages you wanted to, like the correct light, a busier than usual landscape, the colors where not strong enough, the tones where down, your camera didn't have a sepia mode then why not bring your photo up with some tech help.
- Photos are meant to represent what you had once seen. If you do not get what you saw, memory starts fading away. If you had a way to brighten and make colors warmer, why not? It would help you remember your past a bit better.
- If you don't have much time to take many shots until you get the result you want to why not touch up the one time shot you got of that great monument?

Conclusion & Examples

Photo correction is moraly correct because photography in general is a product of many factors, the most important being human imagination and luck. Uniqueness is not lost, it's being reinvented.

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*Bummed:iconBummed: Jul 27, 2007, 2:48:49 AM
I think it's quite "ethically right" in competitions aswell. Any professional photographer that takes a good picture will still correct it later. With traditional means, this would mean doing it in the lightroom afterwards, changing to the correct filters for best contrast, different exposure times and what not.
Now I'd say there's a vague line between correcting and manipulating sometimes. Color adjustments and contrast over the whole image is fully OK in my book. Even the best needs to do that to get the perfect picture, while going in on details maybe goin a toe or two over on manipulation and that's a bit more cheating.
Plainly, if someone don't correct their image afterwards and lose the competition because of it, they'll just have to think of it next time imo. Correcting photos when you get in from the field has always been the case and I can't see why it'd be unethical in any way.

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~zlyoga:iconzlyoga: Jul 27, 2007, 4:55:16 AM
In the darkroom we tweak things in the photo, burning in places and adjusing exposure and contrast and using spotter liquid. so why not on the computer? do whatever you want to make it be your vision

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*Cyberworld-Arts:iconCyberworld-Arts: Jul 27, 2007, 7:26:59 AM
That's a good thought as well. Thank you for the support. :D

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*Cyberworld-Arts:iconCyberworld-Arts: Jul 27, 2007, 7:31:28 AM
Well i think you are quite right on the manipulating and correcting line. Indeed the line is thin. To answer this you can try to see what tools resemble the ones you can have on a normal lightroom. Burn and dodge tools i think are ok. I'm not sure about tools like cloning or healing brush. Then again there is this multiple exposures thingy with photography that you can do the same by compining photo layers on a PC. This can get confusing! :D

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~gh0zt:icongh0zt: Jul 27, 2007, 11:12:12 AM
correct - yes, manipulate - no.

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*Cyberworld-Arts:iconCyberworld-Arts: Jul 27, 2007, 11:45:04 AM
Practically i don't see much difference nowadays...Now that i saw this multiple captures ability for film cameras and some digital. Since you can capture more than one photos onto one film slot, what is the so much difference with Photoshop layers? Except for some effects, that you can't do with a lightroom i think all the rest are ok. :)

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*Bummed:iconBummed: Jul 27, 2007, 3:37:26 PM
Well, as you eventually concluded, pretty much all manipulation tools in Photoshop (for example) are descendant from lightroom practises, so drawing the line at "what can't be done in a lightroom/analog(ly?) but digitally is manipulation" is a bit missleading. I'd say filters (as the original lightroom filters(different contrasts and so on)) are correction tools. Going in on details like trying to fix red eyes, bad colored light reflections and shadows accross faces would be manipulating, and a decent (art) photographer shouldn't bother with a picture like that in the first case and just dump it.

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~Echo-Velocity:iconEcho-Velocity: Jul 27, 2007, 9:26:28 PM
I don't see anything wrong with slight postwork to any artwork. All of my photography, all of my 3D and 2D art goes through Photoshop, just so that I can get it to look better.

However, I don't do heavy postwork, just the usual levels, brightness/contrast, saturation, sharpening, etc. I know that there are some people who don't like the idea of "touching the original art," but why not? You aren't making a significant change to the image, just slight adjustments that, in all honesty, could be made with a more technically advanced camera, or various lenses, exposures, lighting changes, etc.

From what I've seen, nearly everyone does some degree of post-processing, but it doesn't obstruct the art. If it does, well, there is a photomanipulation section for a reason. ;)

The only time I've gone over the bounds of postwork is with a series of B&W images I hope to post eventually, for them I did extensive filter work, but they really do look like some of the film B&W images I've seen, just with a few more glowing white areas. Of course, that was just for fun, I wanted to see what kinds of things I could do to enhance my photograph. Besides, I think postwork has already become a division of Photography - HDR photography. To be honest, it looks very much like postworked photography, but in reality it is just a series of photos taken at different exposures and stuff, then combined.

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*Cyberworld-Arts:iconCyberworld-Arts: Jul 30, 2007, 9:23:38 AM
So it is just photography, but the darkroom has been replaced with a digital one. :) My thoughts precisely. :highfive:

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