Greetings, all my fellow deviants.
Chances are most of you reading this news article have never heard of me before. And who can blame you? With over 5 million members on dA, who has time to memorize them all? But what Im here to talk about has to do with the little mark at the beginning of my name. You know, just look. Its that little wavy symbol there. For those who didnt know, that little wavy thing is called a tilde.
In the world of deviantArt, that little tilde lets everyone know that I am simply a member of the community. No subscription, no seniority, no special services. Just a member. And you know, as a just a member of dA, Ive found it so very difficult to get my art out into the community. Sure Im not all over the place. I dont really post in the forums, but thats only because most of my time goes into my art and my job in real life. Cant really blame me for that. But why is it that if you dont pony up the dough, its so hard to get a following? Why is it that about 99% of the time, that little strip of art on the front page under the

opular heading is full of nothing but art done by subscribers? Why does one need to pay for fame? I can certainly think of quite a few deviants with no subscription who have art to knock the socks off any subscriber.
Now, now, Im not saying that dA only lets subscribers get into those categories. Thats quite unlikely, because if they did they would have a good handful of very upset members on their hands. Who says you have to be a subscriber to be good at art? But what I want to know is why do us lowly members get overlooked? Subscriptions seem to put many artists up in this category of my art is better than yours. And please, dont get me wrong Im not calling any subscribers snooty or anything like that, but it just seems so hard to approach some people on here. I know personally that I make it a point to reply to every comment I get. Some people I watch or will randomly see art on; never even give thanks for the this is awesome comments. And whats even sadder is as I look down the lists of comments, I see replies to subscribers
I see replies to senior members
but to the every day member? No acknowledgement. Usually when someone adds one of my pieces to their favorites, I check out their page, scan through their gallery, and leave a comment thanking them for the favorite. Not so with many members. And yes, I know, when you get popular enough it isnt really within reason even, to attempt to reply to every comment and every favorite or watch. But I very rarely see a portion in these popular peoples journals, thanking those that make them popular!
Now you may be asking yourself whats the point? Well bare with me, Im getting to it. You see, I dont like this whole pre-name-symbol system. It isolates us members who cant afford to buy a subscription. And believe me, just as I know if I had and extra $30 bucks laying around, Id buy my subscription to dA back in a flash (I had one a number of years ago), there are plenty of deviants out there who would do exactly the same. I like the idea of subscriptions. No ads
access to new features before others (why not? They paid for it! ), and plenty of cool features us members will never see. But why should they get that little asterisk or equals sign next to their names? Its almost like flaunting I have money, and I can do more things because of it. And of course, Im sure the vast majority of subscribers dont actually feel that way, but to us members, we feel it. There is such a separation between subscribed deviants and your average poor deviant, and there shouldnt be. DeviantArt is a community, and when it started out, there was no separation between upper class and lower class. The only symbols before our names was that nice little tilde, and of course, different ones designating the higher-ups (they can put whatever they want in front of their names. Its their site! ). What I think is that we should go back to the way things were, with only higher-ups having their spiffy dollar signs and carrot marks. No more separation between those that pay and those that cant or choose not to. If we need to designate them somehow, put it on their main page as a badge or something. Something that doesnt set them apart no matter where you see their names.
So here I am, average deviant, with my little tilde, hoping to make my mark. I may not be able to change the way we are designated, but at least I can get people thinking about it. At least in a community such as this, I can have my say. And that is really what it comes down to. Community.
Viva la community!
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so "popular" artists may not have brought it themselves~! they are popular because of their art but now i'm rambling XD!
well.. if one pays for the dA service.. then they should respectively receive something back.. if that makes sense.. and if that may be just an asterik in front of the name.. then so be it
ahaha~ n_n but i do agree with your point.. and it's a damn good point
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As for leaving comments on people's front pages, not all of them may get notified [I certainly don't] and that may be the cause of why they don't answer you back. And many so-called popular artists do thank the many that watch and comment, but journals tend to get pushed back when new pages are written and the dedicated fans usually know that they are appreciated already.
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I'd like to make a few discussions points about your article. Consider them as 'food for thought' when you consider the different users of deviantART.
First off, let me start by showing you this: FAQ #106: What are the symbols in front of each deviants nickname?
While I am sure you have certainly seen this before, it brings up an interesting point. The symbols in front of each deviants name are not meant to categorize them into 'upper' and lower'; it is a way of visually identifying and differentiating members of deviantART. Looking at symbols as a caste system ends up being an extremely skewed way to observe the website and its member base.
Why is it that about 99% of the time, that little strip of art on the front page under the
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It isolates us members who cant afford to buy a subscription.
How? Every person is differentiated by a symbol, and to be frank, ~ are en masse. They are the largest group on this site, and therefore the most watched.
Ultimately, this site is about art, not symbols. People care about the art. This would be an easier claim to back up if, say, only subsrcibers received Daily Deviations or some such-- when in fact, it's often the opposite.
The reason your average deviant does not become '
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Most deviants do not receive much '
Perhaps your claim would be more valid if you observed other symbols in the community and their popularity-- because believe me when I say there are many, many deviants who are subscribed who do not get attention. It is not something that is constrained to ~ as you are making it out to be.
I hope I have helped clarify this situation for you.
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Also, since they aren't proclaiming profusely that they're "way better than normal members", there's no need for you to think that they're puporsely trying to distinguish themselves. They simply pay because they want those features, not because they have this urge in them to have a little asterix or equal sign in front of their username. Again, this may not be true for all cases.
I don't think that "we lowly members" are being overlooked; it's just that, referring again to my first point, maybe the subscribers are more dedicated to art than SOME (not all; I can clearly see that you are quite dedicated yourself) non-subscribers.
Some subscribers might just pay because they want the special features. They might not, as said before, just want the attention of saying "LOOK AT ME, I PAY, I'M SPECIAL, HA HA HAAAA!" You even said so yourself... "Its almost like flaunting I have money, and I can do more things because of it. And of course, Im sure the vast majority of subscribers dont actually feel that way..." You continued to say... "but we members feel it." I admit, I have felt like that, but really, since we all know that the vast majority of subscribers don't actually feel that way, then we have no need to feel that they're feeling that way either. Wow, I'm starting to be confusing.
It's also true that some subscribers just do it to stand out, yes. But there's no need to get so worked up about that. It's a free country (at least, where I live), so they can think about whatever they want. Let them think they're superior. There really is no need to challenge that. If you yourself work hard and you know they aren't superior, then you don't have to declare that to them. Humour them and let them feel good and "special" about themselves. Really, there isn't much of an urgent need to make all the symbols the same.
And actually, it does make sense that they get special-ness. If they pay DeviantART and all they get is their name on the front page (and if that did happen, I doubt other would bother to take all their time to browse through it and say "these peoples paid!" thus they don't get much special-ness), I would kind of find that as a rip-off if I was a subscriber. And you also commented "someting that doesn't set them apart no matter where you see their names". Well, if you did put their name on the front page, and you saw their names there, that would set them apart. Therefore, you actually contradicted yourself in one sentence. No, I'm not trying to be mean to you. I'm debating
So, my point after that long ramble is, we can leave this issue alone. If you do feel "left out" or like an "underling" because you aren't a subscriber and you don't have those little special symbols, then you should try and be more positive. Realize those little symbols aren't that important, because the fact is, they aren't.
Actually, to be honest, if I subscribed, I would prefer to leave my symbol as it is now. I don't really like the asterix or the equal sign
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Thanks so much for that suggestion. I think I may start planning for that!
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Thank you so much for your comment. It was suggested to me to start a regular news article featuring non-subscribed artists. I think that may help spread the art out even more widely, and give a special place where people who may not be able to afford a subscription can have their art out and about. I personally am a college student, and literally have no extra cash to spend on a subscription (god knows I want mine back again), and I'm sure there are many others in the community just like me who would love an opportunity to showcase their art.
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It was suggested to me today to start a news article that features non-subscribed member art, to give people who may not be able to afford a subscription (or just don't want one) a place to showcase their artwork. I think I will start such an artcle, and hopefully bring the community closer together.
Thanks for the comment. I'm glad I got some people talking about this subject. (By the way, I love how you used "caste" up there. I'd been searching for that word all day before, because I knew that was the perfect word to describe how I felt about the symbol system. I just couldn't get it off the tip of my tongue XD )
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