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Tha Ultimate Myspace Projeck Winners and Features!

=SylverKitsune:iconSylverKitsune: reports, August 22
Sylver and Garrett's "Ultimate Myspace-Mockery Projeck" has come to fruition! Inside be the WINNERS, and all FEATURES - and EVERYBODY who graced our contest with their General Awesomeness! <3 Thank you so much!

A Feature for You From Me

*Aziot:iconAziot: reports, August 20
I just wanted to share some artworks with you :D
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What makes a Bad Artist aside from Artistic skill?

*Morgan-the-Rabbit:iconMorgan-the-Rabbit: reports, August 18
These are few things that i feel make a bad artist, regardless of artistic skill
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Deviations by "Unknown" Deviants #2!

=xpedr0:iconxpedr0: reports, August 14
"Unknown" Deviants Feature

Inside you will find many amazing works made by fellow deviants with less than 10,000 pageviews!

Go give them and their art some love! :love:

:w00t:
79 comments   Gossip  Last +fav: ~azhaan

The ultimate list of what sucks ass

=DeMaulwurfn:iconDeMaulwurfn: reports, August 12
Many people contributed - here are the results:

A list full of things that REALLY suck ass!

Voodoo Features

~voodoo-vamps:iconvoodoo-vamps: reports, August 6
Voodoo Features for Voodoo Lovers

100 Friends Feature

~little-billie:iconlittle-billie: reports, August 6
I got 100 friends so I wanted to share their artwork with all people

The New Forum Newsletter: Issue 5

=bohobella:iconbohobella: reports, August 1
Keep up-to-date with the happenings of the deviantART forums with the new installments of `conorschild's Forum Newsletter, now written by =bohobella. In this issue, we discuss the biggest news to hit the forum in quite a while, including the release of V6 and the banning of a plz account close to our hearts.
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Tempest Storm, Still going strong at 80

^Ghouldaddy:iconGhouldaddy: reports, July 15
Tempest Storm, on of the premier pin up models and burlesque dancers of the 1940's, 50's and 60's is still going strong at 80 years of age. The star of such films as Russ Meyer's French Peep Show (1950), Paris After Midnight (1951), Striptease Girl (1952), Irving Klaw's Teaserama, (1955) (which also featured Bettie Page!!!) is still performing burlesque striptease in Las Vegas proving that despite your age, a classy broad is still a classy broad!

Places to go - Images to fave!

~ForbiddenSorrow:iconForbiddenSorrow: reports, July 11
Beauty is all around us!

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All Things Red, Yellow, and Pink

*Ancient-Hoofbeats:iconAncient-Hoofbeats: reports, August 25
A different kind of feature, with the theme being the colors "red", "yellow" and "pink".
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Internet Hate

=howlingvoice:iconhowlingvoice: reports, August 26
Small report on the hate people harbor for each other for no reason.

It's all about a stunning artist

~minica:iconminica: reports, 2d 21h ago
I grown up with his work :D

Did You Know... A Selection Of Interesting Facts

~kapolei:iconkapolei: reports, 1d 11h ago
A selection of Fun, Weird, and Interesting Facts I found all over the web.

Art Theft/ Inspired Deviations

~Chrystalle:iconChrystalle: reports, August 24
No wonder everybody knows what I’m going to type for another few minutes. May be, have even hit the conclusion but still I need to make sure you actually deciphered the positive side of the speech. Getting
Back to the line, from where I started off.

Stop it with the bull shit

=noname4you:iconnoname4you: reports, 17h 43m ago
This is a news article that's aimed at those who put random crap on DA. Enjoy. And I have NO idea which category this goes into.
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plz Invasion!

*juliemelissa:iconjuliemelissa: reports, 2d 12h ago
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Love Contest, 3 Days Left

*Ancient-Hoofbeats:iconAncient-Hoofbeats: reports, August 25
3 days left for the "True Love" contest!

Let's make a prediction daily deviation choices...

~Pedigri:iconPedigri: reports, August 26
Is there a way to predict what kinds of daily deviations will be chosen mostly on a particular time of the year? The recent "typographic art" boom where nearly every day brought a daily deviation in the category "typograhic art" made it clear to me that there is something behind it and it was obvious what it is exactly...

Do you want to know what determinates one's sense of aethetics, so you can predict what artworks will have the greatest chance to be chosen as Daily Deviations and what daily deviations suggestions are going to be most likely successful? Then read on.
17 comments   Gossip  Last +fav: ~Pedigri

Mystery super-talented artists

~LadyLunia:iconLadyLunia: reports, 18h 38m ago
I wonder where such awesome young artists get their skills.....
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Spiffy Symbols and Subsciptions

~ladyalikolecir:iconladyalikolecir: reports, August 9, 2007
Greetings, all my fellow deviants.

Chances are most of you reading this news article have never heard of me before. And who can blame you? With over 5 million members on dA, who has time to memorize them all? But what I’m here to talk about has to do with the little mark at the beginning of my name. You know, just look. It’s that little wavy symbol there. For those who didn’t know, that little wavy thing is called a “tilde.”

In the world of deviantArt, that little tilde lets everyone know that I am simply a member of the community. No subscription, no “seniority,” no special services. Just a member. And you know, as a “just a member” of dA, I’ve found it so very difficult to get my art out into the community. Sure I’m not all over the place. I don’t really post in the forums, but that’s only because most of my time goes into my art and my job in real life. Can’t really blame me for that. But why is it that if you don’t pony up the dough, it’s so hard to get a following? Why is it that about 99% of the time, that little strip of art on the front page under the “;Popular” heading is full of nothing but art done by subscribers? Why does one need to pay for fame? I can certainly think of quite a few deviants with no subscription who have art to knock the socks off any subscriber.

Now, now, I’m not saying that dA only lets subscribers get into those categories. That’s quite unlikely, because if they did they would have a good handful of very upset members on their hands. Who says you have to be a subscriber to be good at art? But what I want to know is why do us lowly members get overlooked? Subscriptions seem to put many artists up in this category of “my art is better than yours.” And please, don’t get me wrong I’m not calling any subscribers snooty or anything like that, but it just seems so hard to approach some people on here. I know personally that I make it a point to reply to every comment I get. Some people I watch or will randomly see art on; never even give thanks for the “this is awesome” comments. And what’s even sadder is as I look down the lists of comments, I see replies to subscribers… I see replies to senior members… but to the every day member? No acknowledgement. Usually when someone adds one of my pieces to their favorites, I check out their page, scan through their gallery, and leave a comment thanking them for the favorite. Not so with many members. And yes, I know, when you get popular enough it isn’t really within reason even, to attempt to reply to every comment and every favorite or watch. But I very rarely see a portion in these popular people’s journals, thanking those that make them popular!

Now you may be asking yourself “what’s the point?” Well bare with me, I’m getting to it. You see, I don’t like this whole pre-name-symbol system. It isolates us members who can’t afford to buy a subscription. And believe me, just as I know if I had and extra $30 bucks laying around, I’d buy my subscription to dA back in a flash (I had one a number of years ago), there are plenty of deviants out there who would do exactly the same. I like the idea of subscriptions. No ads… access to new features before others (why not? They paid for it! ), and plenty of cool features us members will never see. But why should they get that little asterisk or equals sign next to their names? It’s almost like flaunting “I have money, and I can do more things because of it.” And of course, I’m sure the vast majority of subscribers don’t actually feel that way, but to us members, we feel it. There is such a separation between subscribed deviants and your average poor deviant, and there shouldn’t be. DeviantArt is a community, and when it started out, there was no separation between “upper class” and “lower class.” The only symbols before our names was that nice little tilde, and of course, different ones designating the higher-ups (they can put whatever they want in front of their names. It’s their site! ). What I think is that we should go back to the way things were, with only higher-ups having their spiffy dollar signs and carrot marks. No more separation between those that pay and those that can’t or choose not to. If we need to designate them somehow, put it on their main page as a badge or something. Something that doesn’t set them apart no matter where you see their names.

So here I am, average deviant, with my little tilde, hoping to make my mark. I may not be able to change the way we are designated, but at least I can get people thinking about it. At least in a community such as this, I can have my say. And that is really what it comes down to. Community.

Viva la community!

~Setsuna A.K.A. Aliko Lecir

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~Kuroneko-Hime:iconKuroneko-Hime: Aug 9, 2007, 3:13:15 PM
You know what would be really cool of you to do, post a feature in the news of non-subscribers.

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~GoranDA:iconGoranDA: Aug 9, 2007, 3:34:56 PM
the subscription doesn't make you hit the popular page...for sure !

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~Misao-Flower:iconMisao-Flower: Aug 9, 2007, 4:16:11 PM
you make a good point.. except.. some of the "popular" artists.. the subscription was given to them.. like donated by others..
so "popular" artists may not have brought it themselves~! they are popular because of their art but now i'm rambling XD!
well.. if one pays for the dA service.. then they should respectively receive something back.. if that makes sense.. and if that may be just an asterik in front of the name.. then so be it :XD:
ahaha~ n_n but i do agree with your point.. and it's a damn good point =) thankyuu~ for bringing such a topic up =D

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~AlaraFirewing:iconAlaraFirewing: Aug 9, 2007, 4:55:49 PM
I currently have a year subsription [it runs out within the month]. While I did not pay for this particular stint [I won it] I have paid for subscriptions in the past, and it does absolutely nothing for your pageview count or popularity. They are plenty of great artists out there who are "just members". Paying money doesn't get you popularity [unless you buy adcast, but even then...]. Commenting on others work or posting a lot of work tends to attract people, so paying money and getting a different symbol in front of your username has nothing to do with fame or popularity.

As for leaving comments on people's front pages, not all of them may get notified [I certainly don't] and that may be the cause of why they don't answer you back. And many so-called popular artists do thank the many that watch and comment, but journals tend to get pushed back when new pages are written and the dedicated fans usually know that they are appreciated already.

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@youthculture:iconyouthculture: Aug 9, 2007, 5:15:50 PM
Hello,

I'd like to make a few discussions points about your article. Consider them as 'food for thought' when you consider the different users of deviantART.

First off, let me start by showing you this: FAQ #106: What are the symbols in front of each deviants nickname?

While I am sure you have certainly seen this before, it brings up an interesting point. The symbols in front of each deviants name are not meant to categorize them into 'upper' and lower'; it is a way of visually identifying and differentiating members of deviantART. Looking at symbols as a caste system ends up being an extremely skewed way to observe the website and its member base.

Why is it that about 99% of the time, that little strip of art on the front page under the “;Popular” heading is full of nothing but art done by subscribers? Why does one need to pay for fame?

';Popular' deviants are often given subscriptions as gifts, as part of their-- well, popularity. However, this is still a hefty claim to make. May I ask you how you came to this conclusion? What written benefits that subscriptions offer bring deviants popularity? I can tell you from experience that money has little to do with this. Every benefit offered by becoming a subscriber are all internal benefits-- meaning things that help you, the user, not your audience. That is entirely in the user's hands. Really, these deviants are not ';paying for fame'. They are paying for better internal benefits which really do not have any weight on their popularity.


It isolates us members who can’t afford to buy a subscription.

How? Every person is differentiated by a symbol, and to be frank, ~ are en masse. They are the largest group on this site, and therefore the most watched.


Ultimately, this site is about art, not symbols. People care about the art. This would be an easier claim to back up if, say, only subsrcibers received Daily Deviations or some such-- when in fact, it's often the opposite.

The reason your average deviant does not become ';popular' (and believe me, I see questions about this on a daily basis), is often because they do not interact. For instance-- you yourself are a good positive example of how a deviant becomes exposed:

# 2,104 Deviation Comments
# 1,400 Deviant Comments

19,701 Pageviews

Most deviants do not receive much ';popularity' because they do not frequently comment on each other's work; they ask for comments and usually expect to receive it without having to comment themselves. This can be said of not only ~ members, but * members too-- or anyone on deviantART, myself included.


Perhaps your claim would be more valid if you observed other symbols in the community and their popularity-- because believe me when I say there are many, many deviants who are subscribed who do not get attention. It is not something that is constrained to ~ as you are making it out to be.


I hope I have helped clarify this situation for you. :)

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~Mojofooka:iconMojofooka: Aug 9, 2007, 5:20:25 PM Mood: Neutral
Erm, perhaps it's just coincidence that the people who paid seem to be "more popular", as you say, than those who don't subscribe. I find that people who are extremely dedicated to art will scarp up some extra money and get a subscription, but it's not because of the subscription that they are popular, it's because of their dedication. That's true for some cases.

Also, since they aren't proclaiming profusely that they're "way better than normal members", there's no need for you to think that they're puporsely trying to distinguish themselves. They simply pay because they want those features, not because they have this urge in them to have a little asterix or equal sign in front of their username. Again, this may not be true for all cases.

I don't think that "we lowly members" are being overlooked; it's just that, referring again to my first point, maybe the subscribers are more dedicated to art than SOME (not all; I can clearly see that you are quite dedicated yourself) non-subscribers.

Some subscribers might just pay because they want the special features. They might not, as said before, just want the attention of saying "LOOK AT ME, I PAY, I'M SPECIAL, HA HA HAAAA!" You even said so yourself... "It’s almost like flaunting “I have money, and I can do more things because of it.” And of course, I’m sure the vast majority of subscribers don’t actually feel that way..." You continued to say... "but we members feel it." I admit, I have felt like that, but really, since we all know that the vast majority of subscribers don't actually feel that way, then we have no need to feel that they're feeling that way either. Wow, I'm starting to be confusing. :XD: Hope you understood that.

It's also true that some subscribers just do it to stand out, yes. But there's no need to get so worked up about that. It's a free country (at least, where I live), so they can think about whatever they want. Let them think they're superior. There really is no need to challenge that. If you yourself work hard and you know they aren't superior, then you don't have to declare that to them. Humour them and let them feel good and "special" about themselves. Really, there isn't much of an urgent need to make all the symbols the same.

And actually, it does make sense that they get special-ness. If they pay DeviantART and all they get is their name on the front page (and if that did happen, I doubt other would bother to take all their time to browse through it and say "these peoples paid!" thus they don't get much special-ness), I would kind of find that as a rip-off if I was a subscriber. And you also commented "someting that doesn't set them apart no matter where you see their names". Well, if you did put their name on the front page, and you saw their names there, that would set them apart. Therefore, you actually contradicted yourself in one sentence. No, I'm not trying to be mean to you. I'm debating :XD:

So, my point after that long ramble is, we can leave this issue alone. If you do feel "left out" or like an "underling" because you aren't a subscriber and you don't have those little special symbols, then you should try and be more positive. Realize those little symbols aren't that important, because the fact is, they aren't.

Actually, to be honest, if I subscribed, I would prefer to leave my symbol as it is now. I don't really like the asterix or the equal sign :XD:

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~Mojofooka:iconMojofooka: Aug 9, 2007, 5:21:56 PM
I am in complete agreement.

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~ladyalikolecir:iconladyalikolecir: Aug 9, 2007, 9:11:22 PM
you know, that really isn't a bad idea. Non-subscribers need a bit of a place to feature themselves. For those of us who can't afford a subscription, or don't want one, there should be a place where we can showcase what we have, and maybe even get a few non-subscriber pictures on that popular line!

Thanks so much for that suggestion. I think I may start planning for that!

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~ladyalikolecir:iconladyalikolecir: Aug 9, 2007, 9:19:31 PM
You have some very good points here. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not pointing at subscribers as though they are the problem. I myself was a subscriber a while ago. When I say there should be less distiction between users, I only mean that like, say, here on the comments, we shouldn't have to see differences in symbols. Subscriber's distinction should be limited to their front pages. I do agree that if they pay for a subscription they deserve to have some separation from the rest (otherwise what's the point in paying? ) but I don't think I should be able to scroll down a page of comments and pick out those who subscribe and those who don't.

Thank you so much for your comment. It was suggested to me to start a regular news article featuring non-subscribed artists. I think that may help spread the art out even more widely, and give a special place where people who may not be able to afford a subscription can have their art out and about. I personally am a college student, and literally have no extra cash to spend on a subscription (god knows I want mine back again), and I'm sure there are many others in the community just like me who would love an opportunity to showcase their art.

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~ladyalikolecir:iconladyalikolecir: Aug 9, 2007, 9:24:30 PM
You make a valid point. It is true that the tildes far outnumber any of the other symbols here on deviantArt, and therefore we make up the majority of the community. But, in saying that then, doesn't that then mean there should be more members with popular art that aren't subscribers?

It was suggested to me today to start a news article that features non-subscribed member art, to give people who may not be able to afford a subscription (or just don't want one) a place to showcase their artwork. I think I will start such an artcle, and hopefully bring the community closer together.

Thanks for the comment. I'm glad I got some people talking about this subject. (By the way, I love how you used "caste" up there. I'd been searching for that word all day before, because I knew that was the perfect word to describe how I felt about the symbol system. I just couldn't get it off the tip of my tongue XD )

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