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An Interview With vix0r... Dog hater.

*Flutterings:iconFlutterings: reports, August 31
:ninja: =Flutterings interviews ~vix0r about attempted dog murder, literature community initatives and lime green knickers.

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Spam Spam, wonderful Spam.......

*baby-snakes:iconbaby-snakes: reports, August 31
Everyone loves spam, right? Could you tell if you are watched by a spam account? Here are some red flags to tell whether your new watcher is an actual human being.

for those who want to report violations.

=SLPdomain:iconSLPdomain: reports, August 28
for those who care ---report ---
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What is deviant behaviour ? Is it ART?

=SLPdomain:iconSLPdomain: reports, August 27
When is enough enough...
What difference does it make when popular artist vent vent vent and support a site that tolerates deviant behaviour.
HA! no wonder its all in a name.

A Conversation & Interview with FallenRox

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A Conversation & Interview with FallenRox : Assistant Director of Artist Relations - dA.

Blinded by the "rules"

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This will at some point affect you!

Comments or Cruelty?

*SeductiveByatch:iconSeductiveByatch: reports, August 21
I know some may see this as an issue only for BBW models, but really think about it, how many of you have gotten comments that were not helpful in any way, just hurtful, rude and cruel.
I know we can not regulate manners but I think the difference between critiquing someones work and insulting them personally needs to be addressed

La Primera Transmisión de Radio en dA!

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A las 9:20pm (hora México centro) el día sábado 16 de Agosto '08 se realizó la primera transmisión de *noticias a traves de Radio por Internet y 35 oyentes (todos deviants) nos acompañaron durante dos horas. Este Article News traducido al ingles por =PinkArbol es un resumen de lo que pasó en esta primera transmisión por radio en internet y una entrevista a la locutora =Rummylovesyou.



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The Value of Art

=sidneyeileen:iconsidneyeileen: reports, August 20, 2007
What is the value of art? It's something most artists think about at least once in their lives, and for many of us it is a nearly daily consideration.

In this article, I present my views on the value of art, and the how and why of those views. Value can be a very difficult thing to assess, because it is so tied up with our emotions, and everyone seems to have a different view of the subject. I hope to be able to answer some of those questions, and help provide other artists with a possible guideline for the value of their own art. I know not everyone will agree with me, and that's fine. The most important thing is to understand that art has value, no matter what value each person gives each piece of art.

Every piece of art is different, and the value is unique to that piece of art and the person who encounters it.

Money is an obvious value, but that raises the question of how much? Social value? Certainly, but to whom and why? Personal value? Of course, or we wouldn't be creating the art, would we? How can you measure that?

I believe that every artist creates art for personal reasons and personal value. Often that personal value is externalized as family or social enrichment, charity work, political statement, monetary gain, or any of a million other things, but if those external things were not personally important, we would not put our time, energy, creativity, heart, and soul into creating the things that we do.

How much personal value art has is something that each of us can only determine for ourselves.

I met an amazing artist years ago who would leave his works wherever he happened to be when he finished them. I picked one of them up once, and tried to hand it to him, telling him that he had forgotten it on the table. He just brushed it off and said he didn't care. He'd just draw something else tomorrow. For him, it was the creation that mattered, not the finished product. On the other side of the coin, I have met countless artists over the years who would find it very difficult to part with even a single piece of art, or who had heartfelt regret for ever letting one go. Most of us, I think, fall somewhere in between the two extremes, keeping those pieces most special to us, and allowing others to move to other homes as sales or gifts.

It can be an incredible confidence boost when another person likes your art enough, considers it valuable enough, to spend good money on it. It can be equally disheartening to put it out there for sale and not have anyone pay a dime. So how do you know if you are asking too much? How do you know if price is the problem?

The most important monetary value that can be assigned to a piece of art is the one the artist him or herself gives it.

You must think a piece of art is worth the money being asked, and never settle for less than you think the minimum value of the art is. Selling art for too little can result in feeling used and unappreciated, because the customer got a "bargain" on something that was worth far more to the artist, something that carries with it a part of the artist's life, passion, and love.

Don't cheat yourself by parting with art for too little money - especially originals.

It is a very difficult thing to put a monetary value to your own art, but I can share with you how I figured out my prices. I started last year with a focus on pet portraits, so I went out into the web and looked up as many web sites of professional pet portrait artists as I could. I then focused only on those artists who had a comparable style and skill level to my own, or were more skilled. I ignored all the stylized, modern art pet portrait artists because they are actually not my competition. They appeal to a completely different customer base, take a completely different skill, and a completely different time scale to complete each piece. I wrote down all the commission prices from the web pages, and noted whether I thought they were more, less, or just as skilled as myself. That gave me a good idea of what the market value of pet portraits in my skill level was.

I cannot recommend doing that sort of research here on dA. Successful, professional artists are the standard by which art should be priced, and such artists will almost always have a domain of their own where they keep this information. DA is an amazing melting pot of artists of all styles, skills, and ages, so it can be difficult to sort out the hobbyists, weekend commission artists, and serious professionals. Many of your favorite professional artists here probably have their own domains, so go there and see what they are asking for their works.

After I had a good idea of the market values, I sat down with a bunch of photos a friend provided me and kept track of how much time it took me to draw them. I took the average number of hours, multiplied it by $10 (the minimum wage I would need to be able to survive if I was doing portraits full time), and checked to see if it matched up to the market value. It was pretty darned close, meaning that I should be capable of competing, at market prices, and still potentially make enough money to be able to get by. Those prices are what I base my realistic, original art prices on. I have gotten faster over the last year, but I am not going to reduce my prices because I consider them well within the range of a reasonable wage. Plus, I have a bit of a cushion in case a piece takes longer than expected.

It frightens me how many artists on dA monetarily undervalue their art. If you look around, you will see no shortage of artists who are willing to work for $5-$30 for an original commission. A lot of people seem to think that no one will pay more than that, but the truth is that people can and do pay more than that every day. There are very few art styles fast enough to provide a living wage at that price, even if the volume of commissions is high enough to keep the artist busy all week. As a result, price-competitive artists are capable of undercutting their competition, selling their art based almost solely on an undervalued price as opposed to the quality and relevance of their work. I don't think this helps anyone.

Determining the value of a non-commission piece is much easier if the artist kept track of the time it took to finish. The minimum value should be a skilled labor wage, at least $10/hour, but ideally closer to $15/hour. All art is skilled craftsmanship, and its value should reflect that. That means if I finish an original in 10 hours, and I want to sell it, I need to ask at least $100 for it. If I am selling it through a service or business that takes a commission, I need to add that amount to my sale price. For example, if an auction site charges a 10% commission, then I receive 90% of the sale price. That 90% must equal my $100 value.

Formula:
$min_value x 100 / %received = $min_sale_price

Example:
$100 x 100 / 90 = $111.11

Most galleries in my area take a 40% cut. That means, if I sold the same piece in a local gallery, 60% of the sale price would go to me.

Example:
$100 x 100 / 60 = $166.66

“High” prices are almost never the cause of slow sales. 99% of art sales is marketing. I'm still learning marketing myself, and it's very tough. There are so many amazing artists, that if you can't successfully market your art, you won't make many sales. That is also why less skilled artists sometimes make a very good livings. They know how and where to market their art.

If you still aren't sure about the value of your art, look at the hour-based price for your work and pretend you have enough disposable income that you could buy any piece of art you wanted. Would you think that piece of art was worth that much, or would you keep looking even though the money wouldn't be a hardship? If you'd keep moving, don't sell it, just keep doing your art and having fun.

I am very particular about the value of my own art, both personally and monetarily. I will never sell a piece for less than I believe it to be worth, but I will sometimes give it away. I once had a friend tell me that every friend of hers should have at least one print of hers in their home, and gave me one that I had been eying. I would have paid her the asking price, but to her it was of more value as a gesture of friendship. I would never dream of refusing such a gift.

Art can be an amazing gift, and when the person you are giving it to knows how much it means to you, that makes it even more special. I don't mean bragging on your prices, or telling the person receiving the piece what dollar value you would have asked of a stranger. I mean just a general knowledge that your art means something to you, has value, and conveys so much more than something bought at a store.

Our art is a part of us.
It contains our hours, months, years, or decades of accumulated skills and experiences.
It is the manifestation of our creativity.
It is the embodiment of our desires, hopes, and dreams.
It is the culmination of moments, hours, days, of time in our lives.

Yes, even if you are bored with your art, even if you feel uninspired, frustrated, or unimpressed, it is still all of these things and so much more.

That is the value of art.






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~mustaz:iconmustaz: Aug 21, 2007, 8:46:41 AM
yeargh!

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=Ahuvah:iconAhuvah: Aug 21, 2007, 9:13:18 AM
:glomp: This sounds quite familiar :heart: And thanks so much for writing it! I hope it opens many people's understandings :)

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~blackdog9:iconblackdog9: Aug 21, 2007, 9:25:56 AM
Although I don't know if I would ever delve into the area of selling my art, I really enjoyed reading your article.

This is what it probably means to "sell out" when you settle for less when you know that your work is worth more.

Very informative. :nod:
=DarthFar:iconDarthFar: Aug 21, 2007, 9:37:25 AM
Thank you very much for sharing.

Incidentally, I've been putting my commission plans on hold because I've been agonising over the price list (half the people I asked told me I should charge by the hour; the other half said that buyers are generally cheap, and I wasn't exactly filling in any kind of niche anyway; both sides left me confused). Reading your insight on the value of art and commission rates has cleared things up for me rather a bit. :)

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Farthos, bug-eyed member of The Four Muskatos, comrade of Wraithos, Jedirikkos and Tanabatamis.

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=sidneyeileen:iconsidneyeileen: Aug 21, 2007, 10:23:51 AM
:cuddle: Thanks for the comment. I hope it helps other people too.
=sidneyeileen:iconsidneyeileen: Aug 21, 2007, 10:27:55 AM
I'm glad you enjoyed it and found it informative. :aww:

I think there are a lot of different ways a person can "sell out". The first thing that comes to mind for me would be creating art that you care nothing about, just because someone is willing to pay you a lot of money. Worse yet, creating art for something you disagree with (or, at least said you did) just because a lot of money is offered.

I think that sort of motivation shows through in the final piece of art. When an artist really "feels" for a piece of art, or is truly inspired, that shows in the final product. When it's forced, it can turn out somehow... flat. That doesn't mean the product is necessarily bad, but when compared to other pieces by the same artist, it often won't stack up. At least, I don't think so. I'm sure there are exceptions, though....
=sidneyeileen:iconsidneyeileen: Aug 21, 2007, 10:53:19 AM
The situation you are describing is exactly the reason I thought an article like this was important. I'm glad it has helped you understand pricing a little better.

Best of luck to you. :hug:
~blackdog9:iconblackdog9: Aug 21, 2007, 10:53:25 AM
Very true :no:

I hate the idea of forced art (especially when its about something you are opposed to) and I know I can definitely feel it with my own art =|
=sidneyeileen:iconsidneyeileen: Aug 21, 2007, 11:13:49 AM
Me too. I do art because I love it, and I am working towards making a living at it because I want to spend the vast majority of my time drawing instead of working at a day job.
=Foxfires:iconFoxfires: Aug 21, 2007, 11:39:40 AM
Wonderful article! This is definitely my 'weak point, because I have a tendency to be too shy when it comes to valueing my art. I'll be saving this and referring to it quite frequently I bet! :hug:

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