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*LiamSharp:iconLiamSharp: reports, Nov 7, 2007
Getting into comics is something a lot of people want to know how to do, but there's a lot of questions you want to ask yourself first. There’s such a vast array of genre and subgenre, technique, approach, and so on, that it’s important to be clear on where you want to go with your work – and you have to be really honest and tough with yourself at this stage! If you’re into the capes and tights and you want to go mainstream you’re going to have to want it incredibly badly, as the competition is the most extreme I’ve ever known it right now. But right across the industry there's an enormous amount of competition.

Very few artist or writers are “discovered”, becoming over-night sensations. Most UK writers will have cut their teeth in 2000ad, and that‘s certainly the case for many artists too – even though the art in 2000ad isn’t necessarily done in a US mainstream technique. If you can’t get in through 2000ad, or you're US based, then you have to go direct to US editors. You’ll most likely find one of them at a con – at which point you can pester them, endure any criticism they might make, and get the details you need to submit work. It’s not easy, and it’s fraught with disappointment – even as a pro of 20+ years, I’m lucky if one in maybe ten pitches gets off the ground!

Another thing nobody tells you about the mainstream is that, as an artist, you’ll almost certainly be drawing stuff you’re not prepared for, and don’t really want to do. Your portfolio – which should be mostly pencil art, half as big again as regular comic pages on high quality paper, and not inked with ball-point pens or felt tips – will be stuffed with things you like drawing. Nobody practices the stuff they don’t! I’m pretty good at monsters, barbarians, trees, natural landscapes, organic alien technology, but early on I found myself struggling with cars, house interiors, buildings, and a whole host of stuff I really wasn’t very good at. And it’s not fun doing that, even when it’s for The Hulk! So be warned!

Your other alternative is the indi route, which is the route for committed auteurs who are doing it for love. This is much more flexible, though you still have to find a company that fits your vision and buys into your stuff – and you absolutely will not make any money out of it 99.9% of the time. If you can’t find a publisher, you might as well just go ahead and publish it yourself – far more easily achieved than ever before.

If you’ve decided to go down the self-publishing or indi route, then you need to be very honest with yourself, and you need to know how unbelievably hard it is to get your stuff seen and sold right now. It has never been so easy to create comics and produce printable files, it has never been so cheap, and subsequently neither have there been so many people doing it.

With the advent of platforms like MySpace and reality TV, Warhols assertion that everybody would be famous for 15 minutes seems to be coming true. We’re seeing everybody selling themselves everywhere – often with absolutely nothing to sell but themselves. That’s what you’re up against – everybody else selling something. So you have to have a good idea who’s likely to buy it, and why, and where you’re going to sell it to them. You’ve also got to know why you’re doing it – because if you honestly think it’ll be a good business venture you’re almost certainly in for a shock. The only way to succeed as an independent is to do it for nothing else than the love of the medium, and belief in your product.

Also, be sure you really know what you have. You’ll need a pretty accomplished and experienced eye casting over most work to genuinely know if it’s pro-quality. There’s an awful lot of self-delusion in the indi publishing world!

At cons you’ll need funds for tables, hotel rooms, etc, and you’ll most likely not cover your costs with sales. If you get a distribution deal, you’ll be in the long shadow of the big companies, buried in a dark corner of a vast monthly catalogue.

If you’ve no marketing budget, then your only option is messageboards, MySpace, indi-driven sites like The Engine, and getting hold of a list of internet comics news sites – they’re available, you just have to find them.

If you have created your own book, and your dream is to see it printed, but you have literally no funds, and nobody is willing to publish it, there are other great options, such as [link]. Here you can upload your entire book having placed it into one of the templates they provide, and you can then order a printed, bound copy direct from them for the price you set for it. Print on demand is an incredible innovation, and like Amazon, they will list your book for anybody to buy, they’ll even generate an isbn number and barcode, and provide editorial services if you wish. This is completely free, and they will take a small percentage of any book sold. The downside is you have no stock you can sell and show at cons, (unless you order a bunch as samples, but they will cost you the full price,) and you have to find a way to market them sight-unseen online – which is bloody hard if nobody has heard of you, and not easy even when they have!
If you accept all of this, I can promise you – there’s nothing more rewarding than seeing it through. It’s amazingly satisfying and cathartic.

Most of what I’ve outlined above we found out along the way. The first book MamTor produced, about three years ago, was really a glorified convention sketchbook. These had become the thing to do in the US, and every artist had a pulpy black and white A5 booklet with a colour photocopy cover, that progressed to an A4 book with a card stock cover the following year. By the time I did mine, which ended up being “Sharpenings: the Art of Liam Sharp”, we found it could be on glossy paper, with a colour section and cardstock cover. It had become - almost by accident - a real book. At around the time we were printing this, which was also a fallow work period for me (another reason for producing a showcase title) I met a group of highly talented artists at the Bristol Comic Expo – Dave Kendall, Kev Crossley, Emma Simcock-Tooth, Cardinal, and Emily Hare, to name a few. We had met on my old messageboard, but it was the first time we had come together face to face. John Bamber (old friend, and long-time art collector) and myself simultaneously – and entirely separately – came up with the notion of an anthology showcasing their work. When we discovered this it became obvious we should unite our efforts, and put it out under the MamTor banner, as we had my artbook. I thought it might help to get some pros involved, and started asking around to see if anybody had any personal work they’d like to see in print. Some had, but as it turns out, most creators are desperate for a chance to do something for the hell of it, and without the usual editorial constraints. “Event Horizon” slowly started to give birth to itself.

We also received a few pieces that literally stunned us, such as Matt Coyle’s unprecedented “Worry Doll” – out now from MamTor - which has been hailed in the Australian press as a landmark, and is getting it’s author TV and radio spots, major exhibitions, and international attention. Work like that comes along once or twice in a decade I think. It’s hard to recall the last time I saw something so unique and technically awe-inspiring. It’s set a new standard for us as a publisher I think.

The biggest issue of all concerning new publishers, indi publishers, and publishers of niche material in general, is promotion, distribution, and printing. Securing a distributor in the first place can prove extremely difficult. Many book buyers simply won’t take you seriously. Some require you to have published 10 books before they will even take a look at your material. I’m still coming up against barriers on an almost weekly level, and we’ve been established for almost three years now. But lets say you get a deal with a distributor; immediately you’ll be losing 62% of your revenue – and that’s excluding advertising and printing costs. To get seen in the catalogue will cost you an arm and a leg if it’s going to compete, and there’ll be no concessions in the price. Big companies receive huge discounts for advertising space because they buy so much. You, on the other hand, will have to pay the going rate.

You will also have to pay top dollar for your printing, as – unlike the big companies who may get good deals – you’ll most likely be involved in one small print run.

Promotion is an endless cycle of head-scratching and frustration, and it often doesn’t seem to be reflected in sales. You can win awards, receive great reviews and endorsements, even get yourself in national – or even international – papers and magazines, and you still won’t be able to get decent orders, the trust and faith of the retailer, and the full backing of the distributor. It’s the most talked about subject of any indi comic publisher, and it can break hearts and bank accounts. Be warned!

If you really want to hear it as it is, you have to network within the industry – and be prepared to listen! It’s a tiny business, so you really don’t want to make enemies. That means being civil. Do not, on any account, force yourself into conversations, or make demands on pros. A bad rep once it gets hold is near impossible to shake, and in such a navel-gazing industry, it’s remembered for a very long time indeed. Look long and hard before asking a question, but if you do, you’ll find there are a lot of people willing to give you answers and fill you in on how things work. Again, civility is the key-word. If you think you know it all you’ll be laughed out of the industry…

If you can build up a good raport online, you’ll find that pros are more open to you at cons, once they’ve established who you are - don’t hide behind online pseudonyms, they don’t help you. People want to know they’re talking to real people, not “Frag Gor the Battle Rat”! There's a lot of vitriol being spawned because people hiding behind their avatars feel they can say what they please, and creators feelings are seldom spared!

Having said all this, something inside me drives me to continue, and thankfully my partner in all of this – my wife Christina – understands completely, and gets as much out of it as I do. I love doing it, and I will keep on doing it as long as I’m able. Few art-forms are so labour intensive - if any - but few can transport us so readily to the places we imagine. Comics have the potential to be pretty much anything, as a fusion of words and pictures, and the more people who see and understand this the better. It's important we learn to be broad minded in the things we're interested in, both as creators and readers, so that this evolution in the art-form can take place. We're in a time where the whole medium could really explode, but only if we let it.

Liam.

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~Christos-Martinis:iconChristos-Martinis: Nov 7, 2007, 2:49:19 AM
All this is great and helpfull, but i get the feeling (not from this journal but in general) that it is more important to know the right people and be "a pleasant fella" than to know what you're doing on the page.

Would you say that this is true?

I hope not, but if this is the case, maybe i should put drawing aside and go study public relations...



P.s. Spawn Dark Ages... wow...

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Forget the freak you're just nature.
Keep the gun oiled and the temple clean.
Shit, snort and blaspheme let the heads cool and the engine run because in the end everything we do, is just everything we've done."
*MirrorStewedios:iconMirrorStewedios: Nov 7, 2007, 3:24:28 AM
From what I've seen and experienced in the industry, with me only being published online thus far, is that those who are dedicated and show their love of the medium and the appreciation of the Publisher, Pros and Ams, and especially the public. Average Joe out there may dig your stuff, but if you don't have the dedicated production and publication, you won't get noticed and you won't get paid.

A lot of the time, you don't get paid much either way, and the biggest thing I notice at the Cons and Panels there are the alternative of turning your comic or story into a pitch to other mediums, Like Motion Picture or Game companies.

Use of MySpace, Youtube, AtomFilms and a few others have fell into a mainstream medium online, but it's so saturated with garbage material, that we've been spoon fed dark material from a black hole and abyss of unoriginal and lackluster quality.

But, that's from my latest venture in expanding my own business and art.

Cheers on the post!

D.

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*LiamSharp:iconLiamSharp: Nov 7, 2007, 4:41:21 AM
Hey Christos.

I would say absolutely no. I've heard it said that you need two out of three qualities to be successful. You need to be: very good, very fast, very nice. That's really accurate, but you'll get nowhere without any skill at all.
The press and a lot of fans rattle the cages of the industry, and there's a lot of savagery directed at the mainstream creators for being a bit lightweight, or uninspired, or pedestrian. Let me tell you that maintaining your creativity at any level over a career is an achievement, and the people who make these attacks do it on the basis that they think they can do it better. Well maybe, for one issue. Or just maybe that person IS the next Frank Miller, or Jim Lee, or whoever. But once you've told your two or three storys that you've worked on for years, that's when the work REALLY starts.
It's true that connections help - a little. But as I said in this piece, I've been around for 20+ years, I know a LOT of people, and I try my very best to be a good, civil and well-mannered man. I still struggle to land good gigs. It's tough out there! But manners help, seriously. Nobody wants to work with an arrogant, ill-mannered arsehole who thinks he/she knows more than everybody else.

Very best,

Liam.

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~Christos-Martinis:iconChristos-Martinis: Nov 7, 2007, 7:48:38 AM
Yes, being polite is mandatory.
I was hoping that a good comic would be published even if the writer/artist/whatever has never been to the San Diego Comicon.

For example, as a publisher, would it be a problem for you to publish the work of a man to whom you've only spoken
by e-mail? (don't worry, I'm not pitching anything here :) )


And would you say that young artists should direct themselves to a certain style which they can do well, fast and for a long time, or should they experiment with everything and pick a style according to each project?

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"Remember, you're a wreck an accident.
Forget the freak you're just nature.
Keep the gun oiled and the temple clean.
Shit, snort and blaspheme let the heads cool and the engine run because in the end everything we do, is just everything we've done."
*LiamSharp:iconLiamSharp: Nov 7, 2007, 8:08:31 AM
You don't have to go to San Diego to get work.

And I HAVE published people I never met - Matt Coyle, to name one! - based on their work alone.

BUT - "Event Horizon" LOST money, and we had to stop. That's how tough it is, even with names like Bizley, Steve Niles, Chris Weston, etc. Getting the books and talent together isn't always the issue, it's what comes next that is REALLY hard, and getting people to buy it is hardest of all.

Take care, and good luck!

Liam.

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*terminalcondition:iconterminalcondition: Nov 7, 2007, 8:42:14 AM
Great article Liam - I remember reading a similar one you wrote for ImagineFX, unless it is the same one? I can't agree more with the points you made - I think attitude is always key to success. Yes you have to be able to produce strong work, but all some people are bothered about is getting a distinction at college, or simply being better than everyone else. These individuals are often not open to other people's advice, due to their arrogance and like you said - piss a lot of people off who may have good connections in the industry.

Networking is key. It's all about communication skills - the very thing we put down on paper in the first place in the form of artistic expression. Unfortunately, some people lose the ability to interact with people. Computers and the internet are a huge help - but first and foremost you need to know how to ask the right questions.

You have to love what you do - have a genuine passion and commitment for anything you create. If all you think about is the money, you really need to ask yourself the questions before anyone else.

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~Dany-Morales:iconDany-Morales: Nov 7, 2007, 9:24:16 AM Mood: Joy
Sir you have just wrote the truth about comics, its sad but true , and even sadder the people who dont understand all this doing everything they can to sell a product quite frankly no one cares about, I also agree on the civil thing, I have meet with lots of stupid artists who shake my hand and then they back talk on me but oh well no wonder their stuff makes no impact at all, great article!

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*LiamSharp:iconLiamSharp: Nov 7, 2007, 9:35:32 AM
Cheers Rich.

The article is updated from the ImagineFX one, with new stuff added, and some taken out...

Likewise, you're bang on.

Talk soon!

Best,

Liam.

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*LiamSharp:iconLiamSharp: Nov 7, 2007, 9:36:47 AM
Cheers Dany. If there's one thing the industry could do with it's better manners! :)

Very best,

Liam.

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~Dany-Morales:iconDany-Morales: Nov 7, 2007, 9:47:22 AM
:thumbsup:

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