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is it porn or art? please vote!

~SquidWish:iconSquidWish: reports, March 16, 2008
In a nutshell:

Should I create an 'is it porn or art?' DA page?

I think its very unfair that a beautiful piece of art gets falsely labeled as pornography and removed from the art community as a direct result of only one or two individuals' personal opinions.
While vice versa - a pornographer is able to claim that his photos are 'art' when its obviously just smut.
This, of course, does not apply to only photography.

I came up with the idea that we needed a DA page dedicated to helping to clean up this problem with a fair voting system.
Every deviant 18 and over gets to vote with their respectfully stated opinions on whether or not the piece should be considered art or porn.
That way, everyone gets a say instead of just one or two people.
Of course, I am still in the process of planning how its all going to work, and there are going to have to be rules for everyone to follow to avoid conflict between deviants(if you have any helpful suggestions, please let me know)

I do realize that this is a huge issue that many people feel strongly about, and that it may be a bad idea overall regardless of my good intent to make DA a better place...

Therefore I want to know what my fellow deviants think of this idea.
Do you think this is a good idea for the DA community?

Please tell me what you think and why in my poll:
[link]
I very much respect everyone's opinion on this, and I ask that you all do the same to me and each other while voting.

Thank you!

P.S.~

(yet again, I have no idea if I submitted this in the right category.
please forgive me, if it is incorrectly placed)

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~Elizsa:iconElizsa: Mar 16, 2008, 1:22:05 PM
i think that would be an amazing idea, because i saw lots of pictures i consider as porn and which have nothing to do with art at all.
so..great idea.

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~Elizsa:iconElizsa: Mar 16, 2008, 1:23:08 PM
oh and i cannot open your link. it's just not there. i mean it says "[link]" but there is nothing linked.

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~fullyautomaticuzi:iconfullyautomaticuzi: Mar 16, 2008, 3:14:11 PM
Good Idea but i cant open your link. it just says [link] but theres nothing there and it doesnt link to anything
~SquidWish:iconSquidWish: Mar 16, 2008, 3:43:50 PM
I know, lol...I realized that after it was too late.
I have a link to my poll on my front journal page :)

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~SquidWish:iconSquidWish: Mar 16, 2008, 3:44:20 PM
I know, lol...I realized that after it was too late.
I have a link to my poll on my front journal page :)

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PAHRAYZE JEEEEEZIS!
=frictiondesign:iconfrictiondesign: Mar 16, 2008, 7:32:01 PM
DA has a pretty specific definition of what they consider to be porn:
FAQ #565: You prohibit the submission of 'pornographic material'; what do you consider this to be?

And what to do if you find it:
FAQ #155: How do I report a submission which I think breaks the rules?

Any deviations which depict any of the scenarios outlined in that FAQ should be reported through the proper channels, and they will be removed by staff.

Considering we already have this system in place for handling this, I don't really see the point of putting images to a "vote" as to whether or not people think they're porn. It would be completely based on individual preferences, which will vary greatly based on people's upbringing, geographic location, age, religious views, etc. None of it really makes any difference, because guidelines have already been laid down to define "porn" on DA, and those standards are the only ones that will be followed when deciding if deviations stay or go.

I believe all that will be accomplished by "voting" is getting a bunch of deviants flamed because your voters don't care for their artwork.

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*TerraForever:iconTerraForever: Mar 16, 2008, 9:53:45 PM
It's true that this system exists but from what I have seen on DA it doesn't seem to be a completely functioning system. I know lots of people whose art has been misconstrued as porn when it was pretty clearly not. And yet there are tons of other things on dA that seem to be rather clearly porn yet they still have their images up and what not. Sure dA may be cracking down on other people but... eh this system doesn't seem to be working very well and only seems to be part of the drama.

I can't say that I can see the voting system being the best; I agree that this could definitely lead to flaming. But it might be worth trying at least. I really don't think the dA system is very effective so it's worth a shot to try something else.

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~SquidWish:iconSquidWish: Mar 17, 2008, 12:16:45 AM
Yes, it may indeed fail...
I wasnt saying that I was a genius and that this was absolutely going to work.
It would -however- be more fair system than the one already in place.
I sure dont see anyone else standing up to help solve the problem, so I might as well pitch my ideas, right?

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=frictiondesign:iconfrictiondesign: Mar 17, 2008, 5:05:15 AM
DA's system does work, but only with reports from users. I can't tell you how many times I've seen rant journals about something; pornography, ripping, or some other inappropriate deviation, with hoards of users crying "OMG WHY WON'T DA DOING ANYTHING STUPID STAFF NEVER DOES ANYTHING!!11"

And then... some brilliant individual suggest reporting said deviation, and the response is something along the lines of "HOW DO I DO THAT??"

For some reason, everyone cries but no one reports. That's why the system isn't working as intended.

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