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Deviants Deviously Deny New Features

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In response to new features: The dA community stands up to preserve itself and deviously denies further separation between general members and subscribers. Gift givers express dislike for violation of their privacy.

helping-the-unknown: 07/07/09 (first edition).

*helping-the-unknown:iconhelping-the-unknown: reports, July 7
In a change to the way the club does things, the club is now publishing news articles, with the intention of bringing to your attention the latest additions to our impressive collections. Please read this article (hopefully the first of many to come!) for more information.

Top Art Collectors Call New York City Home

$Moonbeam13:iconMoonbeam13: reports, July 7
artnews.com has released it's annual list of the top 200 art collectors (37 of them located in New York).

Virus Alert!

*Abfc:iconAbfc: reports, July 3
A VIRUS THAT COULD KILL YOUR HARD DRIVE.
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Awesome News Article

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A must read!

The New Mozilla Firefox 3.5 Now Available!

=MouseRunner:iconMouseRunner: reports, June 30
Firefox 3.5! It's the newest, fastest, safest, and the damn coolest Firefox yet and it's now available in more than 70 languages and of course it's still available for Mac, Windows, and Linux.
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DEVIANCE ISSUE 3 IS HERE! DON'T MISS THE dA ZINE!

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THAT'S RIGHT, ISSUE 3 IS HERE, FOLKS! DOWNLOAD THIS GLORIOUS BABY NOW! IT'S FULL OF FABULOUS EXCLUSIVE ARTIST INTERVIEWS AND ROCKIN FEATURES! ALL THE BEST OF dA IN ONE SPOT!

HAIKU CHAIN GANG CHALLENGE

~SOLARTS:iconSOLARTS: reports, June 29
The Haiku Chain Gang Challenge is an ongoing chain of haiku poems written by Deviants just like you. Join in today and become part of what will hopefully be one of the longest linked poems (what the Japanese call 'renga';) ever written. We have 96 poems in the chain so far - be part of taking us over 100!!

The June overload (probably a must read)

`Norke:iconNorke: reports, June 29
June has been a crazy month for me. This little story tells you why.

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Top Art Collectors Call New York City Home

$Moonbeam13:iconMoonbeam13: reports, July 7
artnews.com has released it's annual list of the top 200 art collectors (37 of them located in New York).

Deviants Deviously Deny New Features

*Tohru-of-Marshmello:iconTohru-of-Marshmello: reports, 8h 54m ago
In response to new features: The dA community stands up to preserve itself and deviously denies further separation between general members and subscribers. Gift givers express dislike for violation of their privacy.

helping-the-unknown: 07/07/09 (first edition).

*helping-the-unknown:iconhelping-the-unknown: reports, July 7
In a change to the way the club does things, the club is now publishing news articles, with the intention of bringing to your attention the latest additions to our impressive collections. Please read this article (hopefully the first of many to come!) for more information.

helping-the-unknown: 10/07/09

*helping-the-unknown:iconhelping-the-unknown: reports, 2d 12h ago
The club has enough new additions in its collections to be able to post another news article. Faving the news article increases the opportunity of it been seen, and it therefore increases the opportunity of the featured works being seen. Please enjoy these excellent deviations! [link] was contributed by ~katrinzzz. The rest by ~mrjans. Please note that there are no Photomanipulations in today's article. :)

Simple Work - Features from the nicest artist

*Beje86:iconBeje86: reports, 2d 16h ago
Some awesome simple work, as awesome as the artists

Something Beautiful

~UchihaPrincess16:iconUchihaPrincess16: reports, July 5
A little talk about nature, which is something that is truly beautiful in this world. Take a moment to read this, because it needs to be heard.

Artists BEWARE!

*jodipheonix:iconjodipheonix: reports, 2d 13h ago
art theft

My Love

~SetsiAngelSailor:iconSetsiAngelSailor: reports, July 8
From My Baby :heart:

2012 IS FAKE

~mastercomic:iconmastercomic: reports, July 7
2012 is FAKE You crybabys!!

Update: Art theft at Designwar.net

*RoninFox:iconRoninFox: reports, July 8
Following on from [link] -- finally, some good news for the affected artists

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Orphaned Works: Specific Q&A

=ReplicantAngel:iconReplicantAngel: reports, April 13, 2008
I have been reading the various Orphan Works news articles for a large part of the day and I see many misconceptions both for and against this prospective bill. Many articles are followed by borderline hysterical comments such as, "But what about this situation...? They're just stealing my art!"

As a law student, I am by no means an expert on copyright law (that, by the way, is my disclaimer - don't take this article as legal advice by any means). I am pretty good at formulating hypotheticals ABOUT the law though - it's what we use to dissect and analyze the law. So instead of chatting endlessly for/against this bill, I decided to address specific hypothetical concerns (and a few other recurring questions). Remember that if you have any legal questions, an intellectual property lawyer is your best bet. All information here could be found by anyone that cares to sift through copyright statutes and case law.

Let's remember two things though:

First, go to the source, not someone who has heard about the bill third, fourth or fifth hand. The Copyright Office's (the primary proponent and instigator of this bill) opinion on the matter is here: [link]
(Be careful of dates - most of the Office's documents on this issue are from the 2006 bill, which was defeated on the floor.) If nothing else, read this document – the Copyright Office is stringent but not your enemy!

Second, I'd like to point out that this bill is in its beginning stages and could easily be squashed before this becomes a true issue. It’s not even in written form yet – just a proposal of a bill, really. It’s nowhere near the point the 2006 bill got to before getting defeated.



So let's get to the possible scenarios that people have put forward:

Question: What if I put a mark of some kind on my art, someone crops it and then uses it for profit? They can just say that it was an orphaned work!

Answer: No, not exactly. The thief needs to show "good faith" and "due diligence". No art thief is acting in good faith, and they certainly didn’t go through due diligence to find the true owner. This is simply copyright infringement and does not fall under the Orphan Works bill as proposed. Bad faith, by the way, is typically defined as “he knew or should have known” that what he was doing was illegal.

Question: But instead of being able to stand up and prove that the work is mine, the thief can just say they didn’t know! Or what if it’s some third party, who truly didn’t know that it was my creation?

Answer: Same answer for both scenarios – it doesn’t matter. You CAN just stand up and say it’s yours. The classification of “orphaned work” is not permanent. If you prove that you own the copyright, the court will place an injunction (i.e. an order that tells someone to do or to stop doing something) on the thief or third party that tells them to stop infringing. Under the proposal, you can then get statutory damages. They don’t exactly say what these statutory damages are, but it could be any fixed amount or surrender of the profits the infringer made on your work, etc.

Question: But while it’s considered an “orphaned work” they’re selling my work legally!

Answer: Yes. That’s true. But that’s a distinction in terms, not practical application. Lots of people (who are not the actual art thieves, who remember don’t fall under this bill because of their bad faith, but unknowing distributors) do just this, but the result remains the same – you can still take them to court. People who didn’t know they were doing something wrong might not get as stiff of a penalty, but that’s the part that good faith takes. Anyway, there aren’t a lot of professional publishers and distributors out there that are dense enough to believe a modern work is not copyrighted. Just as you do now, you have to be vigilant though.

Question: What am I supposed to do when something of mine is stolen though? This bill means that I have to go prove that it’s not orphaned in court – I don’t have the money for that!

Answer: Unfortunately, legal services are expensive and that’s not going to change anytime soon. But you would be paying a lawyer one way or another if someone steals your work. You can either pay one to argue basic copyright under present law or pay one to argue that it’s not orphaned work under this bill. For both, you’ll need an intellectual property specialist. I’m sorry, but that’s the way it works. There are always other legal avenues like pro bono clinics or special interest groups that will take on a case for cheap or even free, but I won’t explore that here.

Question: When I make something, isn’t it automatically orphaned? What about all those visual image stats, like 1 in 100 pictures will be orphaned if it doesn’t come up on Google?

Answer: To the first question, no. You signed it, didn’t you? You marked it? You put it on your website or your page on dA that identifies YOU? Then it’s not orphaned. It’s orphaned when a duly diligent search cannot find the connection between this work that’s floating around somewhere else and you. And I don’t know much about visual art searches, but a simple Google search is likely not due diligence (the proposal will define exactly what IS due diligence). There’s more involved. And remember, you can always reverse an “orphaned work” classification.

Question: What if I formally register my work with the Copyright Office?

Answer: That’s your best bet at winning summarily if someone tries to steal your work. The federal registry is included in the duly diligent search of a good faith user. Yes, it costs money. Yes, it’s a good idea to hire an attorney, especially if you’re unfamiliar with the process. These are the penalties for protecting your work, unfortunately. But you do NOT have to register all of your work – the costs of such a thing is the reason the law changed 3 decades ago. The 1976 amendment also was adopted so that we could fall in line with the international agreement – as a nation, we cannot step out of the boundaries of that agreement or we lose our status as a member of that convention.

Question: But I have a copyright anyway! That means it’s completely mine!

Answer: Uh, no. I know this is a shock, but copyright does NOT cover everything under the sun. Almost, but not quite everything. Think of a CD at a second-hand CD store – it’s not infringement to sell that CD again even though it’s copyrighted and even though no additional money goes to the artist. There are limits on copyright.

Question: What if someone else registers MY art? Would I then be displaying my own art illegally?

Answer: That’s a specious and fear-mongering argument and I have no idea where it came from. Copyright registration can be challenged. Someone can register your work and you can fight it, just like everything else here.

Question: So, you’re telling me not to be worried. You sound pretty biased.

Answer: On the contrary, I’m not telling you to anything but be aware of the true issues. Congress has often taken a decent idea and screwed it up. And then the courts could interpret it in a way that twists it beyond recognition. It’s happened and is happening more often than it should. But this is a democracy for a reason. Speak up!

I hope this clears up a few things for you. I was quite uneasy about “outing” myself, a virtual newbie on this site, but I think that if I reach one person and calm one person’s fears it was worth it. Remember that I’m not advocating or decrying this proposed legislation – I simply wanted to clear up a few misconceptions that are floating around.

Final note – I worked hard on this article, checking my information and referring to several other articles. Please don’t bash me or any other commentators on a personal level. Thank you!

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~sayomi-chan:iconsayomi-chan: Apr 13, 2008, 8:20:16 PM
=) Very informative and I sincerely thank you for taking the time to do research! ^^; When I first heard about it, I must admit I panicked... <.<; But unlike most people, I took a step back and tried to get to the root of what was going on before I did any freaking out... ^___^ This answered the questions I still had left so thank you!

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~SesshyluvsJc:iconSesshyluvsJc: Apr 13, 2008, 8:28:49 PM Mood: Joy
Yup. That's some good Copyright info. hehe...My computer Teacher informed my class about copyright laws. That is why I state copyrights, and disclaimers on all of my work. I AM NOT ILLEGAL!! lol....thanks for the info though!!

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~kittykatangel:iconkittykatangel: Apr 13, 2008, 9:37:27 PM
Wow, you really did do a lot of research. When I first heard about this, I was kinda outraged. But then I figured, if it were a real threat at the moment, then there would be a much bigger deal about this in the news, so I calmed down.

But thanks for taking the time to do this article because it answered a lot of my questions.
~see03:iconsee03: Apr 14, 2008, 4:28:27 AM
Thanks for writing this! Its very informative, and its really helped to calm me down. I hate to admit it, but I did panic a little about it. Reading this has answered a lot of my questions. Perhaps not the way that I wanted XD But its helped a lot.

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~Krysie:iconKrysie: Apr 14, 2008, 4:44:18 AM
Thanks for taking the time to do research and write this, the journals I was reading on the subject kind of made me nervous. ^^
~mohee311:iconmohee311: Apr 14, 2008, 6:17:08 PM Mood: Love
Yes thanks so much for all your time in writing this out to people who don't really know whats going on!!!
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And now I know why you write so well..your a law person!! Your great with words!! ^o^

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=ReplicantAngel:iconReplicantAngel: Apr 14, 2008, 8:43:05 PM
Thanks, but it says that only an admin can take this down. I'm not going to ask them either because I believe this is a different take on what is clearly still getting a lot of attention - this isn't just a rant, but an informed survey of what is specifically concerning a lot of people unnecessarily.

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=starfantazy:iconstarfantazy: Apr 14, 2008, 9:29:05 PM
a survey based on a law students interpretation of the law..

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