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An Interview With vix0r... Dog hater.

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:ninja: =Flutterings interviews ~vix0r about attempted dog murder, literature community initatives and lime green knickers.

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Spam Spam, wonderful Spam.......

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Everyone loves spam, right? Could you tell if you are watched by a spam account? Here are some red flags to tell whether your new watcher is an actual human being.

for those who want to report violations.

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for those who care ---report ---
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What is deviant behaviour ? Is it ART?

=SLPdomain:iconSLPdomain: reports, August 27
When is enough enough...
What difference does it make when popular artist vent vent vent and support a site that tolerates deviant behaviour.
HA! no wonder its all in a name.

A Conversation & Interview with FallenRox

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A Conversation & Interview with FallenRox : Assistant Director of Artist Relations - dA.

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This will at some point affect you!

Comments or Cruelty?

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I know some may see this as an issue only for BBW models, but really think about it, how many of you have gotten comments that were not helpful in any way, just hurtful, rude and cruel.
I know we can not regulate manners but I think the difference between critiquing someones work and insulting them personally needs to be addressed

La Primera Transmisión de Radio en dA!

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A las 9:20pm (hora México centro) el día sábado 16 de Agosto '08 se realizó la primera transmisión de *noticias a traves de Radio por Internet y 35 oyentes (todos deviants) nos acompañaron durante dos horas. Este Article News traducido al ingles por =PinkArbol es un resumen de lo que pasó en esta primera transmisión por radio en internet y una entrevista a la locutora =Rummylovesyou.



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A collection of the best works of august, in our club. It's worth the reading :aww:

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An Interview With vix0r... Dog hater.

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Google Chrome EULA warning

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You might have heard about Googles new web browser Chrome. But people who really read the EULA found out something rather disturbing: Google gets the rights to everything you create or publish with Chrome. So before we get further info about this, I wouldn't recommend submitting deviations with Chrome.
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"Art Theft" and a Redundant Quest for Attention

~squeakytoad:iconsqueakytoad: reports, April 17
First of all, allow me to inform you that this is an editorial. It contains facts and examples, but it also contains opinions. If you do not like anyone else's opinions but your own, please do not comment.
If you are a reasonable person, please feel free to.

I believe reading and comprehending this will benefit the community at large. And it will save them a lot of the hairs they so violently rip out in their rage- excuse me, "emotional reactions".


Every day a large number of people on DeviantART claim they're the "victims" of "art theft".

However, DeviantART isn't the only place you hear these claims. Nah, if it were just DA, I wouldn't mind so much. Millions of pointless things are complained about every day on DeviantART. I won't lie, I often find myself amongst the complainers.

However, all across the internet, artists and their "fans" are hounding people in search of "art theft".

Before I continue, allow me to suggest you go actually read the copyright law of your respected nations as well as the laws of the United States (as DeviantART is located in the US).
I suggest you avoid DeviantART's "Copyright Policy" as it sadly misrepresents the law and doesn't provide the reality.

There's such thing as "Fair Use". DeviantART very carefully skirts over this issue without addressing it on their "Policy" page. I recommend you all familiarize yourselves with this term and what it implies.

Why?

Because, from what I've seen, the majority of users on DeviantART seem to have a sadly misconstrued idea of what is and isn't "Art Theft".

I stumbled upon a quite popular editorial the other day from a girl complaining about "Art Theft" (this very ominous and notorious crime that's worse than mass murder apparently; or so you'd think from the comments of many raging Deviants).
What was this "theft"? Well, apparently she found someone with a Myspace page using her image as the background.
EGADS! LIFE IS OVER!
No, not quite. In fact, it had never really affected her in any way. She was still quite popular and, were she making her prints available for sale, I don't see how this would've affected her business.
After all, it's some random guy using her picture as a background on his private profile. One which probably only his friends will ever see.
Regardless, she had people send him messages demanding its instant removal.
"What...?" I was kinda dumbfounded. "Are you serious?" My mental reaction in a nutshell.
What next, children? Are we to burst into highschools and demand every student remove every picture from their locker that they found on the internet and printed out?
Are we going to create programs to spy on people's computers to make sure they don't use your image as a Desktop background, or -dare I say it- RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE TO THEIR "MY PICTURES"!?!

Now, to be fair, she didn't get emotionally "worked up" until she found out that her images were being used by a "company" that made Myspace layouts for a small commission.
Ok, now THAT'S a copyright infringement.
They're making money off your work AND claiming it as their own.
I do insist that you feel free to do something about this. This is indeed a case of felony (though don't get your panties in too much of a mess- it's not the end of your life or career).

Another artists on DA was recently asking that nobody user her images in sigs or avatars, and that if they post it on a forum, request her permission first and link to her page. She also asked her "fans" to seek out and find any usage of her images ANYWHERE and in ANY circumstance, and demand it stop being used.
Good heavens, lady. Do you want a diamond ring with it?

Yet another artist was throwing a fit because an avatar she made for herself was now being used as an avatar all over the internet.
AND - OH NOES - SHE HAD DISCOVERED PEOPLE BOLD ENOUGH TO USE IT AS THEIR AIM ICONS!!!

Now, before you ask for links to these people's pages, I will tell you now that I refuse.
While I disagree with their methods, I will in no way reveal who they are, as they have a right to their privacy. I'm not about to unleash a horde of people angry at kids for overreacting on their pages. That's even more unreasonable than what they're doing.

Another trend that I find especially pestilent- fans of the artist and, so I believe, the artist herself have trolled a younger sibling of mine for quite some time across the internet because on one private group page he created for some friends of his on some random kids sight, he used one of her images as the banner.
He claimed no ownership, made no money- it was just a middle schooler and his friends on a site designed for kids to just message each other.
But these other kids and the original artist are all in his face because he's using her image.
HERE'S THE IRONY: Not only was this image one of copyrighted Nintendo characters drawn without Nintendo's permission (so the artist already can't claim to own full copyright status), but all of the accusers had screenshots and official art of this Nintendo game plastered all over their private sites, sigs, avatars, and other locations.

Yet they were all yelling at him, "You're using someone else's creation that they spent time and effort making! How dare you!"

This brings me to two points:

Yes, I know many of you claim you are perfectly original but just draw the excessive fan art because you like the characters and not because you can't think of any of your own and most certainly not because you desperately crave attention.
But remember that, in doing so, you're using someone else's ORIGINAL creation. They probably spent time and effort making as well.

Funny how "Fair Use" now applies.

Secondly, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
Oh ye hypocrites.
If you'd like, we can arrange to sweep the entire internet for any accounts you may have ever owned in your life. We'd also like you to turn over copies of your hard drive and pictures of your room. If we find that you have never had any screenshots, official artwork, OR ANY ARTWORK THAT WAS MADE BY SOMEONE ELSE (YES, THAT INCLUDES STUFF FROM TV SHOWS- except more so, since those people actually register and purchase rights and teams of lawyers to defend those rights)- NEVER EVER USED SUCH IMAGES, then you're free to throw the first stone.


Why is their such an obsession with claiming to be the "victim" of "art theft"?
Well, for the attention of course.
Being the "victim" immediately means you can complain all you want and have tons of people (each of who wants attention as well when their art is supposedly "stolen") wiping your every tear away.
It also makes them feel important. They can go "la di da! someone stole my artwork! look at me everyone! my artwork is worth stealing!".
I've actually felt this before.
I made a design a few years ago and a few months later found a very popular tshirt company using the almost exact same design (including the words that wen with the design) on a tshirt.
Someone reported it to me, which made me feel even better. "Wow! Someone's watching my back out of loyalty! Imagine how many people will react angrily with me out of loyalty!"
So I write up a very official e-mail and send it right away, huffing and puffin my way to attention.
I'm just about to make an angry journal about it when I realize, "What am I doing? Why do I care so much? I never did anything with this design. Besides, it's possible that they came up with this design on their own. It happens quite often that multiple people have the same original idea. After all, there are 6.7 billion people in the world, so the odds certainly aren't bad. Am I just overreacting for attention?"
I was.
And when the company wrote back an e-mail asking me if I'd be willing to talk with them to pursue it further, along with pages of legal junk, I figured it was a worthless pursuit and let it be."

And these people were making money off of it.

The point of this story isn't to say not to defend yourselves- but to merely point out that feeling and desire for attention that spur on these outraged responses.


Now, that's not to say copyright infringement isn't very real and doesn't happen.

A good friend of mine here on DA just recently had a group steal one of his images (the exact image) and slap it on a tshirt and put a price tag on it.
Needless to say, he was rightful in pursuing this. They were claiming his works as their own AND making money off of it.
COPYRIGHT VIOLATION.

A flash artist saw a site that he quite dislikes steal one of his animations. They slapped their watermark on it, put it on their page, and started making a lot of money off the ads they surrounded it with.
COPYRIGHT VIOLATION.

Some innocent internet user found an image, edited it a little, and made it his 45x45 icon on some random forum, without claiming any ownership of it and without making any money.
COPYR- WAIT. What's wrong with that?


Really, all I'm saying is, quit crying bloody murder all the time. Familiarize yourself with what is legal and what is not.
Don't use it as another vehicle for gaining attention.
Finally, make sure you're not being a hypocrite here. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. And he who lives by the sword dies by it (I like that one).



Chill out a little, and quit seeking attention.

That is all.

Have a nice day.

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~squeakytoad:iconsqueakytoad: Apr 17, 2008, 7:53:26 AM
No really though. I would like your honest reasonable opinions on this news article.
It's not a trolling attempt or an argument starter.
It's a discussion I feel needs to be had.
Some people need some different perspective.

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Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?
The same thing that happens to everything else.
-Halle Barry as Storm (X-men)
~magmanorn:iconmagmanorn: Apr 17, 2008, 8:12:31 AM
Opinion only:
Well, to me if someone did use any of my images without asking, I wouldn't mind. (Now I mean, not a year ago when I was still a whiny brat. Still am, just less whiny I hope.)

But if I had spent ages on it and they claimed that they were the ones who drawn it, I would probably be quite annoyed and amused. Especially since the people who do that usually have next to no drawing skill.

I doubt anyone could make money of my sketches though. :lol:

However, I don't agree with sending a horde of people to hound the thief. Not anymore. The drama is just... well stupid.

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=mapal:iconmapal: Apr 17, 2008, 8:25:51 AM
Yet again I totally agree with you. People are seriously attention seeking and it does annoy me. If someone takes my art and uses it on a site, without claiming ownership, then I'm very flattered that they think my art is worth it. If they credit me, then I'm even more flattered. Right now I'm making a bunch of pictures specifically for other people to use in their siggies, avatars and profiles.

I just hate it when people freak out about things, looking for attention and more 'fans'. They really need to get their heads out of their asses and see that these innocent people who are using their pictures are actually doing nothing wrong. There are a few 'famous' wolf artists on here who complain every time someone uses their pictures. It makes me a bit angry really.

And my friend had one of his pictures stolen, edited a tad, and then put up on photobucket, the guy who stole it claiming it all as his own. I'm not sure what to think about it... photobucket removed the image but he immediately uploaded it again o.O Was he wrong to do it or what?

Soyeah... I'll stop rambling xD Good to see another rant from you.

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=GirlFlash:iconGirlFlash: Apr 17, 2008, 9:17:07 AM
ya, when someone is making money off it that is theft, otherwise I guess you could call it 'borrowing' or whatever. eitherway, there arent any losers if somebody takes your art and has it as a background somewhere.

the wierd thing is sometimes I get people who send me notes about how they found somebody using an emote or avatar of mine, its like they crave to be outraged or something.

if people directed their 'anger' at something that actually mattered (of which there is no shortage) then I could have a lot more respect for them. as it is, it looks more like a childs tantrum; all selfish and looking for attention.

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~oldarmodillo:iconoldarmodillo: Apr 17, 2008, 11:32:42 AM
I agree with this entirely. I also think it important that people pay attention to the complementary nature attached to most theft of art. If you can make something worth stealing than your an artist just go make something worth stealing that's harder to steal. after all, we do sort of generate value from our fingertips. people who can't do that are just examples of how an audience would react to our work.

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!Gmagnum:iconGmagnum: Apr 17, 2008, 12:27:47 PMFlagged as spam
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I agree.

Bitching, what a hobby, nekozumi deserves an award [link]

I absolutely hate it how some people will type/talk to and that journal is the perfect example.

"i frenquently and very easily find my BLEACh pics on blogs, forum layout, websites , ect without my permission X_X
so i'm not paranoid, i'm just ...distrustful
and scared at the same time."

Jesus christ, scared?!

p.s. [link];PHPSESSID=5eeea34e598c4add3307bb0ac1ce6907

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*Scrawffler:iconScrawffler: Apr 17, 2008, 2:32:15 PM
I think you've written this very fairly, and I agree with it. As long as it's not for profit (obviously) and as long as they don't claim it as their own, it's not theft and not illegal. Plus, I too have witnessed occasions where I've believed people have overreacted just for attention.

However, one thing I would advise to those who use other peoples' artwork (for backgrounds, forum icons, etc.) is to always credit the artist in some way and perhaps even link to their online gallery.

Once I wanted to use something in a forum signature I didn't create, so I asked the creator and they said it was fine as long as I credited them for it, so I did and everything was okay.

Another time on a forum, I had written a limerick and someone else had later copied it into their signature without permission, however they had credited me for writing it. Heck, I didn't tell them off. I actually thanked them! I think it's an honour to know that someone likes your work that much, so I'm not going to complain.

Really it's a matter of people getting their priorities straight and thinking about what's most important before doing or saying anything their going to regret. And that goes for both the artist, and the one using their art.

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~squeakytoad:iconsqueakytoad: Apr 17, 2008, 5:29:52 PM
"Don't worry i didin't delete all these deviations
i just hide them from public view."

Hahaha! :lmao:

"Internet is undoubtedly not a safe place lol"

:rofl:

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~squeakytoad:iconsqueakytoad: Apr 17, 2008, 5:31:52 PM
Haha, yeah, I keep telling myself I'm not going to write up these massive "rants" anymore, but then I see something and I see that no one's saying anything about it even though a lot of people feel the same and I have to write something about it.

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Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?
The same thing that happens to everything else.
-Halle Barry as Storm (X-men)
~squeakytoad:iconsqueakytoad: Apr 17, 2008, 5:43:04 PM
Oh undoubtedly. As I said repeatedly in my article, if someone is genuinely stealing your work, you have a right to go after them.

What I'm "preaching" here is that people think a little before reacting, use moderation (don't excessively complain about this for attention; and certainly don't send your fans to annoy someone to death), familiarize themselves with the actual legalities of the situation, and chill out a little.

Thanks for reading! :)

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Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?
The same thing that happens to everything else.
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