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Daily Lit Deviations for July 3, 2009

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Each day we will feature 10 deviations from the Literature categories in a News Article. In order to support the artists that we feature, we ask that you :+fav: the news article as well as check out the individual pieces. We understand that each day you may not be able to check out each and every one of the pieces, everyone has their own things going on. We just ask that you make an attempt to help support the growing Literature community.

Daily Lit Deviations for July 2, 2009

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Daily Literature Deviations is a group that is dedicated to bringing literature to the forefront of the deviantArt community. We attempt to accomplish this by daily featuring Literature artists from around the community that deserve the recognition, but are not getting it.

Each day we will feature 10 deviations from the Literature categories in a News Article. In order to support the artists that we feature, we ask that you :+fav: the news article as well as check out the individual pieces. We understand that each day you may not be able to check out each and every one of the pieces, everyone has their own things going on. We just ask that you make an attempt to help support the growing Literature community.

Daily Lit Deviations for July 1, 2009

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Daily Literature Deviations is a group that is dedicated to bringing literature to the forefront of the deviantArt community. We attempt to accomplish this by daily featuring Literature artists from around the community that deserve the recognition, but are not getting it.

Each day we will feature 10 deviations from the Literature categories in a News Article. In order to support the artists that we feature, we ask that you :+fav: the news article as well as check out the individual pieces. We understand that each day you may not be able to check out each and every one of the pieces, everyone has their own things going on. We just ask that you make an attempt to help support the growing Literature community.

AngstyWriters June Report

*AngstyWriters:iconAngstyWriters: reports, June 30
Cele mai bune lucrari postate pe clubul *AngstyWriters in luna IUNIE.

Wordspill #14 "Tracks" and a new theme!

=Wordspill:iconWordspill: reports, June 30
=Wordspill is back with a vengeance, ready and raring to go with a new prompt!

Una carta, un relato.

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Si te gusta escribir relatos y recibir cartas entérate de lo que te ofrecemos.

Daily Lit Deviations for June 30, 2009

*DailyLitDeviations:iconDailyLitDeviations: reports, June 30
Daily Literature Deviations is a group that is dedicated to bringing literature to the forefront of the deviantArt community. We attempt to accomplish this by daily featuring Literature artists from around the community that deserve the recognition, but are not getting it.

Each day we will feature 10 deviations from the Literature categories in a News Article. In order to support the artists that we feature, we ask that you :+fav: the news article as well as check out the individual pieces. We understand that each day you may not be able to check out each and every one of the pieces, everyone has their own things going on. We just ask that you make an attempt to help support the growing Literature community.

Poetry Feature #112

*TheFavoritesProject:iconTheFavoritesProject: reports, June 28
We've featured 112 poems since we opened our satellite account in January 2007. You can view the most recent feature here, as well as find links to our previous features. You can also dive into our archive. If you like what you see, please devwatch the account because we feature a new one every week! No membership is required and we have no ulterior motive than to expose some great poetry.

Flash Fiction Chat is Go!

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Details of Flash Fiction Month's official chat! Check it out.

Epitaphs

*Rhyme-and-Reason:iconRhyme-and-Reason: reports, June 23
Here at *Rhyme-and-Reason we're not just about the contests-although that's fun. Our goal is to bring about a resurgence of traditional forms. So, *Penessence and I, =tina-go-lightly have decided to point out other forms to all of you, starting with the epitaph.

Literature News This Week

Daily Lit Deviations for June 30, 2009

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Daily Literature Deviations is a group that is dedicated to bringing literature to the forefront of the deviantArt community. We attempt to accomplish this by daily featuring Literature artists from around the community that deserve the recognition, but are not getting it.

Each day we will feature 10 deviations from the Literature categories in a News Article. In order to support the artists that we feature, we ask that you :+fav: the news article as well as check out the individual pieces. We understand that each day you may not be able to check out each and every one of the pieces, everyone has their own things going on. We just ask that you make an attempt to help support the growing Literature community.

Daily Lit Deviations for July 1, 2009

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Daily Literature Deviations is a group that is dedicated to bringing literature to the forefront of the deviantArt community. We attempt to accomplish this by daily featuring Literature artists from around the community that deserve the recognition, but are not getting it.

Each day we will feature 10 deviations from the Literature categories in a News Article. In order to support the artists that we feature, we ask that you :+fav: the news article as well as check out the individual pieces. We understand that each day you may not be able to check out each and every one of the pieces, everyone has their own things going on. We just ask that you make an attempt to help support the growing Literature community.

Daily Lit Deviations for July 2, 2009

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Daily Literature Deviations is a group that is dedicated to bringing literature to the forefront of the deviantArt community. We attempt to accomplish this by daily featuring Literature artists from around the community that deserve the recognition, but are not getting it.

Each day we will feature 10 deviations from the Literature categories in a News Article. In order to support the artists that we feature, we ask that you :+fav: the news article as well as check out the individual pieces. We understand that each day you may not be able to check out each and every one of the pieces, everyone has their own things going on. We just ask that you make an attempt to help support the growing Literature community.

Daily Lit Deviations for July 3, 2009

*DailyLitDeviations:iconDailyLitDeviations: reports, 11h 38m ago
Daily Literature Deviations is a group that is dedicated to bringing literature to the forefront of the deviantArt community. We attempt to accomplish this by daily featuring Literature artists from around the community that deserve the recognition, but are not getting it.

Each day we will feature 10 deviations from the Literature categories in a News Article. In order to support the artists that we feature, we ask that you :+fav: the news article as well as check out the individual pieces. We understand that each day you may not be able to check out each and every one of the pieces, everyone has their own things going on. We just ask that you make an attempt to help support the growing Literature community.

Flash Fiction Chat is Go!

*Flash-Fic-Month:iconFlash-Fic-Month: reports, June 27
Details of Flash Fiction Month's official chat! Check it out.

Wordspill #14 "Tracks" and a new theme!

=Wordspill:iconWordspill: reports, June 30
=Wordspill is back with a vengeance, ready and raring to go with a new prompt!

Poetry Feature #112

*TheFavoritesProject:iconTheFavoritesProject: reports, June 28
We've featured 112 poems since we opened our satellite account in January 2007. You can view the most recent feature here, as well as find links to our previous features. You can also dive into our archive. If you like what you see, please devwatch the account because we feature a new one every week! No membership is required and we have no ulterior motive than to expose some great poetry.

Una carta, un relato.

=ElClubdelaPalabra:iconElClubdelaPalabra: reports, June 29
Si te gusta escribir relatos y recibir cartas entérate de lo que te ofrecemos.

AngstyWriters June Report

*AngstyWriters:iconAngstyWriters: reports, June 30
Cele mai bune lucrari postate pe clubul *AngstyWriters in luna IUNIE.

RenderWonderland's Official Chatroom Launched!

*RenderWonderland:iconRenderWonderland: reports, June 28
Are you a fantasy/sci-fi/horror writer or poet? An enthusiast? Join the mad chattering in #PenInMyTea, *RenderWonderland's official chatroom!

Literature


Questions and Conversations

`GeneratingHype:iconGeneratingHype: reports, May 10, 2008
~LaMonaca reports:


As a writer, one should always keep two questions (adapted from Raphael's QAR strategy) in mind:


:bulletred: What's in the paper?
-- (What did I actually write?)

:bulletred: What's in my head?
-- (What did I want to write?)

Sometimes answering those two questions is not an easy task. How many times have we heard (or said), "Well, I was trying to say this, but..."? How many times have we been very proud of something we've written, which we thought was clear and precise only to have a reader say, "I don't get it. What are you trying to say here?" It's a frustrating experience - this written communication - but there are many tools to aid us in our attempts.

Editors and proofreaders will talk about your grammar and syntax (among other things); Critical Friends, however, are most interested in your ideas. Remember, the cleanest, most grammatically correct poem or story can still be awful. Writing begins with an idea, an impression - an intent to communicate something important to someone else by bending language to your whim. And, as Critical Friends, we are most concerned with your writing and not only where it began, but also where we can help it go.

This is why, during the first week, we asked for writer reflections on the submitted texts and directed Critical Friend comments to follow a similar reflection sequence. Some of you answered the questions; some of you used to critique offered critique; some of you created your own working questions and answers. But in every case, a conversation began.

During the weekend, ^GeneratingHype and I will be commenting on the submitted deviations and focusing, not on the text, but on the Critical Friend conversations as they apply to last week's goal. In some cases we may redirect the discussions; in most cases, we are going to offer suggestions to both the writer and the Critical Friend about how to turn this conversation into something more productive and beneficial to each person. But it begins by asking questions.



Whereas the Writer is most concerned with figuring out a disconnect between 'what's in the paper' and 'what's in the writer-head' that never made it to paper, the Critical Friend is concentrating on two other queries courtesy of Donald Miller:


:bulletblue: What works?
-- (What is working in this paper towards the writer's goal?)

:bulletblue: What needs work?
-- (What needs work in this text to help the writer achieve his/her goal?)

When approaching a text as a Critical Friend, the two questions you should have in the back of your mind are akin to Donald Murray's "What works?" and "What needs work?"

Again, these are two deceptively complicated questions. Without a context - without a set of circumstances, prior knowledge, facts, or other hints to help influence the answers - these questions seem incredibly difficult for some people to answer. "How am I supposed to know what's working?" asks a nervous student who's hardly confident in their own writing let alone confident enough to comment on someone else's. "How do I know what needs work?"

The answer is not simple, but it is sequential. And it's my responsibility, along with ^GeneratingHype, to provide a context that all writers and all readers feel comfortable with. Indeed, never forget that the purpose here is to tap into your skills as a Reader - not a critic - and a Writer. If you can read this sentence, then you can be someone's Critical Friend. We can help you.

This week we're going to work on providing a foundation and a context to make all of you better at asking questions. A good question, you see, can fuel a great (and productive) conversation. And you don't have to be participating in the activities to learn something about questioning techniques. In fact, we encourage any writer or reader to apply the hints and help in these articles to comments on a future text. Just be sure to tell us how it went!



This Week's Critical Friend Task


The first hint to teaching anyone how to ask a good question is to be sure to ask a question that someone can answer. To begin, we start with basic, focused questions. Last week we asked you to look at the text as a whole and make general comments on its strengths and weaknesses. This week, we're going to ask you to be a bit more specific.

:pointr: Step One is to see if, as the reader and Critical Friend, you have any questions about the way the text is organized. How do you know if you do? By asking yourself some questions about the text (instead of asking the writer)!



The Basics


Every text needs a foundation in order to be effective. As a Critical Friend, look back over the text you read last week and concentrate on the very basics of organizing ideas in print. Ask yourself if the text has an introduction, body, and conclusion - a beginning, middle, and end. You don't have to be a SuperCritic to recognize how you felt as a reader. Does it just begin without context and leave you disjointed? Were you confused halfway through because the characters weren't introduced or developed fully? Did it just ramble to an end that didn't feel like an end - or feel very effective? Were you missing something? If it was a poem, did the poem's order make sense? Could you follow it easily? Did the first stanza and all the other stanzas feel like they connected? Was there one stanza that didn’t feel like it connected? Did you feel like a stanza was missing?

Now, we know that's a lot of questions and we're not trying to overwhelm you. Instead, we're asking rapid-fire questions to show you that everyone's reading experience is different and, where you might be confused in the third paragraph, another person might be confused in the fourth. However, any feedback you provide to the writer is valuable because a writer deserves to here the truth from an honest reader - a Critical Friend.

Between now and Tuesday, study the foundation and organization of the text. (If you are unsure what 'organization' entails, please feel free to note your questions to me or ^GeneratingHype) Below we provide very basic questions about very basic parts of the text - things that any reader or writer should be able to ask or answer - but you are under no obligation to ask all or any of them if you don't feel, as the reader and Critical Friend, that they are relevant. These questions are specifically for the Critical Friend (or the Writer) to ask him/herself while reading the text; they are not questions for the Critical Friend to directly ask the Writer. In fact, some Critical Friends may not have any questions they want to ask about the writing. While that is perfectly acceptable, we do ask that you try to find at least one basic question to ask about the way the text is organized, especially if you are unsure who the intended audience is.


Sample Questions: Poetry and Prose

:bulletgreen: Who is the audience?
:bulletgreen: Does this text have an effective beginning?
:bulletgreen: Does this text have an effective middle?
:bulletgreen: Does this text have an effective end?


Sample Questions: Prose Specific

:bulletgreen: Is there an introduction?
:bulletgreen: Is there a body?
:bulletgreen: Is there a conclusion?
:bulletgreen: Is there a "hook" or effective 'first statement' that really draws the reader in?
:bulletgreen: Is there a "clincher" or powerful ending that leaves the reader satisfied?
:bulletgreen: How many topics, events, or characters are covered in each paragraph? Is it more than one?
:bulletgreen: Does the text include details? Are there enough? Too many?
:bulletgreen: Do all the details in each paragraph match what the paragraph is supposed to be about?
:bulletgreen: Does the order of the paragraphs make sense?


Sample Questions: Poetry Specific

:bulletgreen: Is there a rhyme scheme?
:bulletgreen: Is the writer playing with meter at all?
:bulletgreen: Does each stanza focus on one idea or image?
:bulletgreen: Does each stanza connect to the one before and after it?
:bulletgreen: Is there enough by way of details and images to support the idea in each stanza?
:bulletgreen: Does the stanza order make sense?


Note: these are not the only 'basic' questions that can be asked, but they should provide you with a decent foundation for finding 'basic' questions on your own, as well. Note us with any questions!



Then What (Step Two)


Now that you've asked yourself, as the reader and Critical Friend, some questions about the text, it's time to be honest about your answers. Was every answer positive? If so, leave your writer a compliment about how the text is organized. Tell them something you were really impressed with. Did you enjoy that rhyme scheme and think it really worked for the poem? Was that a really strong introductory paragraph? Tell them! The trick, however, is not to repeat anything you said in your previous comments.

However, if you weren't quite sure about some of your answers - or if you were leaning towards a negative feeling or intuition, as the reader, about some of the questions and how they played out in the text - it's time to be completely and utterly honest with the Writer. Indeed, it's time to tell them how you answered some of these questions. If you didn't think the introduction was great (etc.), let them know and try your best to explain why you think you had that reaction. Don't be accusatory or insulting, but be firm and truthful: Looking back over your text, I wasn't sure about your order here. The details didn't seem to fit with what you were trying to say. Hey, I really respect a good rhyming poem, but I'm not sure it's really helping get your point across. Have you considered getting rid of it? You know, on second thought, this might make a better story than a poem. Have you thought about trying short prose?

You don't have to ask a million questions or leave a million comments for the Writer. As the Critical Friend, we don't want you to get burned out. But if you can come up with one new, constructive comment for the Writer in regards to the basic organization of the text, then we'll be ahead of the game. Keep in mind, also, that these are basic questions. We're not looking for more complicated advice right now; they'll be time for more questions and concerns as the weeks wear on. ;)

If you're not sure about your comment, how to comment, what to comment, what questions to ask, or how to convert your answers into comments - please, please note me or ^GeneratingHype with your questions. This is not an intuitive or easy process for everybody, and we know that. We're here to help you learn, and we're committed to seeing you through this rather long and detailed process.


The Writer's Task

Your task is simply to listen. Don't get defensive. Don't let your ego get in the way. Read the comments, read the advice, appreciate the honesty, and respond to your Critical Friend with the intention of both thanking them and continuing the conversation. If you don't understand something they say or you see things differently, let them know and then (humbly) ask them for advice. For example, sometimes a reader is confused about the order of something. They tell you, and then you explain to them what you were trying to do (what was in your head). Now that Critical Friend might be able to help you figure out how to draw that great idea out of your head and get it down on paper. That's our aim moving forward: to develop a conversation between you and your Critical Friend where you can bounce ideas back and forth and find good suggestions that can make it into your text someday.

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~Philipinoguy:iconPhilipinoguy: May 10, 2008, 5:56:37 AM
Thanks for the advice! 8D
I will definitely try to use it.

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=amalym:iconamalym: May 10, 2008, 6:11:20 AM
I`m going to use the questions part when editing my poetry:D Thanks!!

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*GrimEden:iconGrimEden: May 10, 2008, 9:51:51 AM Mood: Artistic
What if the poem isn't a narrative? I can't judge the effectiveness of its structure if I'm dealing with something that skirts prosaic form.

And moreover, while I feel it can be constructive to look to the elements in prose to guide my reading of poetry, I wonder if that is fair to the poem: being judged by the literary standards of prose.

After reading this, it seems that if a poem is not sequentially constructed it has failed in a "basic" way.

I can connect with that idea as a prose writer, and, naturally, I want to take what I know/learn in prose and use it in poetry, so I don't end up looking like a fool 4/5th of the time (which sounds like a great title to a poem ….); however, as a poet, I feel like throwing a lamp at you (I don't have any lamps in my house, so I would have to buy one first).

Of course, I'm inferring this bias towards prose. You were wise enough to give an abstract term (organization) that could be interpreted either way. Nevertheless, I feel this approach is a prosaic one, and while it can be useful in poetry, it is not as beneficial.

As you said, “Remember, the cleanest, most grammatically correct poem or story can still be awful.” The same could be said for structure: A clear, linear flow doesn’t equate to quality. Of course, I would expect most good poems to have an organization, but organization in poetry implies a wider scope of comprehension. Plus, I’m not certain you can ascertain a meaning in poetry without looking closer than the overall construction (that might depend on form eh?).

I am left with the question: Should I focus on the piece as a whole instead of the connections between lines? I know I should do both for a better understanding, but can it be said that one of them is a better approach than the other?

I doubt it. The very reason many of us are able to identify favorite phrases is because we aren’t looking macroscopically at the work.

Despite what I’ve said, it is a good read, and offered me quite a bit to consider in revising my work and helping others revise their work. I will look to it several times when offering additional advice this week.

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`GeneratingHype:iconGeneratingHype: May 10, 2008, 10:19:57 AM
That was, of course, not the intent. We are not using prose standards to guide anything. A poem should have an effective beginning (etc.). This doesn't mean that the poem need-be a narrative poem; it means the opening lines or images must draw the reader in and work, effectively, with the rest of the lines and images in the poem. A poem should consider why it is or is not using a rhyme scheme; a poem should understand if meter is working to its benefit or detriment.

In other words, a good poem should be organized effectively. For example, I once wrote a poem where there was something very, very wrong with it--but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then someone made the offhand suggestion that it seemed as if my last stanza would work much better as the opening stanza. When I stepped back and considered that advice, I found new and amazing ways to revise my writing. They were right! The last stanza, which I was so sure was a strong end, made an even better beginning. And no, the poem was not a narrative poem in the least.

In another circumstance, I was once told that writing for meter is all well and good, but the particular subject I was writing about, and the way I had approached it, would be handled much better in blank verse. Guess what? That was a hard thing to swallow, after so much meter work, but that reader was right, too. The poem was much better after I stopped obsessing over meter and started re-evaluating what I wanted to convey. That was a basic structural issue that my poem was having, and it took only one aware reader who spoke up about their 'issue' to help me fix the problem.

The same could be said for structure: A clear, linear flow doesn’t equate to quality. I believe you are misunderstanding 'flow' and 'structure' in regards to how poetry is composed here. You are assuming the poem is being treated like a prose piece instead of acknowledging that yes, indeed, good flow in a poem does, in fact, directly speak to its quality as a poem--just not in the same ways that one expects prose to work. Flow need not be introduction, body, conclusion in the way an essay for school is written. Enjambment (the way one breaks a line) is, in fact, a very, very important part of poetry and poetry structure in regards to assessing quality and meaning, which is why many beginning suggestions in regards to revising poetry tend to focus on its structure and line breaks. Making sure the stanzas fit together in a decent order--that choices in regards to structure are made with a purpose that contributed to meaning--this, indeed, is a mark of quality. Effectively organizing poetry takes this into account.

Plus, I’m not certain you can ascertain a meaning in poetry without looking closer than the overall construction (that might depend on form eh?). As stated, this is a sequential process that already assumes a few things have happened: one, the Critical Friend should have read and understood the meaning of the poem, as a whole, from the activity last week. If there is still confusion, then the Critical Friend needs to keep asking for clarification in regards to meaning until s/he is satisfied. Then, after the reader/Critical Friend understands the intent of the poem in regards to meaning and effect, it is entirely possible to look at its parts--which is what we are asking you to do this week. Part of looking at its parts is assessing how the organization of the poem works for you, the reader and Critical Friend, in regards to your understanding of the overall meaning of the poem. Does this beginning really work? Is this image really necessary? Does this line break really have the effect the writer is looking for? Are things, structurally, working for the reader? If so, that's great. If not, where is the breakdown?

I am left with the question: Should I focus on the piece as a whole instead of the connections between lines? I know I should do both for a better understanding, but can it be said that one of them is a better approach than the other?

We are not reading for understanding anymore. That should have been done previously, as mentioned. Now we are reading with structure and organization as our focus. And, in order to focus on structure and organization, we must look at each individual part as an individual part and then, once that is complete (and moving on in this sequential process to a point we're not at yet), we can ask how those parts are working in regards to the Whole.

The very reason many of us are able to identify favorite phrases is because we aren’t looking macroscopically at the work. Untrue. Favorite lines come about because, when you are looking at the work as a whole, a particular part shines through despite your intent to read for the whole. You come across something, in the middle of your overall reading, that strikes you--makes you pause, reconsider, collect--and you go, "Wow, what a line!"--and it becomes your favorite part out of the whole piece. If you were looking at this line-by-line and decided to pick out lines that simply 'sound good' as your favorite, during this line-by-line reading, you would be doing the poem and yourself a grand disservice. How can anything jump out of you as worthy of being a favorite if you're focusing on each individual word or line, one at a time, instead of trying to take in the whole piece?

That said, I am glad you found some of this useful. I respectfully disagree with your assessment about this not being as effective an approach for poetry, mostly because this approach has proven most effective when revising my own poetry--as opposed to some other methods that have proven slightly more effective for my prose. I hope you can definitely use some of these suggestions in the future!

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~parentheses:iconparentheses: May 10, 2008, 4:42:45 PM
So, we are waiting until Tuesday before we actually comment on the organisation of our critical friends' works?
`GeneratingHype:iconGeneratingHype: May 10, 2008, 6:52:28 PM
Actually, we'd like you to comment by Tuesday, if you can. We should have all of our comments completed by then, too, so we can all move on at the same time. :D

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~parentheses:iconparentheses: May 10, 2008, 8:31:21 PM
Oh cool! I'm glad I checked. ;)
 

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