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TWLOHA (To Wear Love On Her Arms… a non-profit movement dedicated to presenting hope and finding help for those struggling with depression, addiction, self-injury and suicide. TWLOHA exists to encourage, inform, inspire, and also to invest directly into treatment and recovery..." Source of information [link] )
encouraging others to wear "love" on their arms as well
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Double Birthday Party in #AnkartaKingdom!

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Gaining More Page Views at the Expens of theOthers

~Dominislawa:iconDominislawa: reports, October 6, 2008
Some artists and their works are not very popular here on DA, but there are always some deviants that will notice and appreciate the work of less-known artists and sometimes give them a fav. The fav is something that means that somebody like your work, see something in it. It can give an artist the motivation and the assurance that there is always somebody who notice his/her art and appreciate what she/he does.

This type of favs are sincere and serious, they say that the person who gave them likes this particular piece of work.


But there happen also different situations.

I submited new piece of work. After a while I got two faves.
'Great' I thought 'Somebody likes my picture!'.

As it normally happens, I went to my Favourer site. I was just about to send the usual 'thanks for fav' message and then go to see this deviant's gallery, when I saw that there are suspiciously many 'thanks massages' on the main page of this Deviant, and, what's even more weird, they've been sending every 30-40 seconds for the last hour. WTF?

Hmmm, lets think... Yes! I've already seen it somewhere!

There's the Deviant giving HUGE amount of faves at almost the same time. Most of the times, the Artist is very popular and has really good gallery, which makes all the situation even more disgusting...

Sadly, this person will not even go and see my site again so what's the point?
Of course, there is a point. Very simple point. It seems like somebody is doing it only for others to come and see his/her profile. More views?
Oh yes.


Sorry, but I cannot believe that the person likes SO many DIFFERENT pieces of art and favs ALL of them ( to see it you can just go to main page of the Deviant and read all these 'thanks masseges' sending every 30-50 seconds...)

That is so unfair . Especially for the deviants that do not have popular galleries and for whom every fav means A LOT.
I am not saing that for the popular ones faves do not mean anything. But for them, those two or three faves more are not so important like for the others, less popular ones.
For them, these two or three faves are often the only ones they get.
And it does not mean that these unpopular artists create 'a crap', beacause being popular here not always means being very good (but that's the different topic...)



The thing is, that this way of giving favs is unfair, ugly and harmful to all the Deviants that want their art to be noticed.



So please, give your faves for those, whose work you REALLY like. It means A LOT to all of us, as Deviant Art Users - these more popular, less popular, for both artists and art recipients.
Let's make Deviant Art the place where art is truely and seriously admired and appreciated!

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:iconmomka:
very wise words.

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"Do you have any idea how long I spent preparing that speech!?"
:icondominislawa:
:blowkiss:
no bo sie wkurzylam, juz ktory raz ktos cos takie odstawia...ehhh...

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:bookdiva: [link] :bookdiva:
:iconmomka:
heh....no u mnie często też takie rzeczy robią ;). heh. No ale cóż. Nie warto się przejmować!
W sumie to tylko biedni ludzie są, których otoczenie nie dopieściło, tylko ich żałować można.
;)

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"Do you have any idea how long I spent preparing that speech!?"
:icondominislawa:
no! ale jak mnie cos irytuje to ja musze to wyrzucic ze się, wiec żem to zrobiła w formie żurnalowej :P

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:bookdiva: [link] :bookdiva:
:iconmomka:
ale to dobry sposób jest! Może ktoś w końcu ruszy muskiem ;) (jeśli go ma :XD: )
Jakaś dyskusja na ten temat się wywiąże czy coś... :)

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"Do you have any idea how long I spent preparing that speech!?"
:icondominislawa:
watpie ale wazne zeby moim znajomi chociaz to przeczytali. moze przekaza dalej :P

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:bookdiva: [link] :bookdiva:
:iconmomka:
postaram się przesłać dalej! :giggle:

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"Do you have any idea how long I spent preparing that speech!?"
:iconhatebunny:
I'm not sure I agree with you completely here.

I am a person who gives out a very, very large number of faves. This is not because I want to get more pageviews. It is simply because there are tens of millions of deviations on this site, thousands more per day, and for every thousand, I'm sure that at least 100 are worth a fave.

So, if I went through every day's deviations, and made 100 faves a day, maybe I'll get 100 "thanks for the fave" messages.

Here is a problem that I think is more significant:
People who send out "thanks for the fave" messages are giving people like me what I like to call empty pageviews.

I know that a great many of the people I fave don't bother to look at my gallery when they say thanks.

I am fully aware that one of the only reasons I have even reached 46,000 pageviews in the space of 5 years on this website is because (a) occasionally I post nudes, and (b) I get at least 10 "thank you" messages per day.

Neither of those make me proud, but (b) in particular saddens me, because it makes my work feel empty. I went to the effort of showing appreciation for their work, and they've gone to the effort of showing appreciation for my appreciation.
This is not a fair trade.
That is not reciprocation.

If my work isn't eye-catching enough to warrant a returned fave, I would appreciate at least a critical comment. I would prefer someone tell me why my work is bad than that they simply increase my pageviews under false pretenses, giving me a false sense of appreciation for my art, by simply showing up and saying "thankyou" and nothing more.

I don't want thanks, I want the same respect I showed them by appreciating their work and looking up to them.

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no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
:icondominislawa:
you showed the problem from the other side. and you're right as well.

What can I say more is that I really checked these people that I was thinking about when writing my news.
The true is that they were giving faves so qickly and so often that it was not even possible for them to stop and look at the images for more than 2 seconds... so I do not believe that they DO meant to fav it because they appreciate it.
and they often put their 'real faves' in separate gallery folder than the other faves, and sometimes even name this folder in the way that means that they don't care.
we cannot generalize eaither the problem from mine nor from your example.
I just hate the people who just lie to me by faving my work. and so the other's work.

anyway, thank you for sharing your opinion :)

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:bookdiva: [link] :bookdiva:
 

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