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Horoscopin' Time! - December 2009

=Vynnx:iconVynnx: reports, November 30
With the holidays at hand, this can be a stressful time of the year. Everyone is busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. But do take a moment to check out these relevent glimpses into the future.
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You Are My Sunshine [Feature!]

=random-is-life:iconrandom-is-life: reports, November 30
A collection of nature photography, and here are my favourites of the ones I've been shown or found!

Murk’s Terrible Guide To Being A Nasty Bastard

`MurkHellsing:iconMurkHellsing: reports, November 17
Murk will teach you how to be horrible. But in like, an empowering kind of way, that de-rails in to all sorts of tagental thoughts about the shifting morality of man in the urban age. And maybe what kind of cheese is good on crackers.

Spread The Love

=Wolven-Goddess:iconWolven-Goddess: reports, November 17
Spreading the Love :heart:
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Celebrity News: Miley Cyrus Gains 30 pounds...

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Horoscopin' Time! November 2009

=Vynnx:iconVynnx: reports, November 4
Most people would kill to know what their future holds. Fortunately, you don't have go quite that far. Consult these 'scopes and use this knowledge wisely. This is the straight dope. Honest. It took me something like 20 whole minutes to write this shit.
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Figured it was time for a News Feature

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Collection of beautiful works from talented D.A. artists.
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Style - can you steal it?

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technically about art and styles, and why poeple shouldn't be so protective about it.
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Murks Guide To 100 Things To Do Before You Die

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Be awesome. The right way.

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Calling All Moms!!!

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#dA-Mommies is HERE!!!!!
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UN VOT VA ROG [nu am cerut niciodata o favoare]

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Chiar nu v-am cerut niciodata o favoare personala :(
As aprecia tare mult :)
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Free Sub?

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Rare Artists, a must-read!

=Aiyume:iconAiyume: reports, February 20
I didn't see a news article of this, so here we go!

Found this in =Nakase's journal, who found it in ~LineArtDragon's journal, who found it in... etc.

Reposting this for all you artists out there! Don't ever shortchange yourself!


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Every day, there are more and more craigslist posts seeking “artists” for everything from auto graphics to comic books to corporate logo designs. More people are finding themselves in need of some form of illustrative service.

But what they’re NOT doing, unfortunately, is realizing how rare someone with these particular talents can be.

To those who are “seeking artists”, let me ask you; How many people do you know, personally, with the talent and skill to perform the services you need? A dozen? Five? One? …none?

More than likely, you don’t know any. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be posting on craigslist to find them.

And this is not really a surprise.

In this country, there are almost twice as many neurosurgeons as there are professional illustrators. There are eleven times as many certified mechanics. There are SEVENTY times as many people in the IT field.

So, given that they are less rare, and therefore less in demand, would it make sense to ask your mechanic to work on your car for free? Would you look him in the eye, with a straight face, and tell him that his compensation would be the ability to have his work shown to others as you drive down the street?

Would you offer a neurosurgeon the “opportunity” to add your name to his resume as payment for removing that pesky tumor? (Maybe you could offer him “a few bucks” for “materials”. What a deal!)

Would you be able to seriously even CONSIDER offering your web hosting service the chance to have people see their work, by viewing your website, as their payment for hosting you?

If you answered “yes” to ANY of the above, you’re obviously insane. If you answered “no”, then kudos to you for living in the real world.

But then tell me… why would you think it is okay to live out the same, delusional, ridiculous fantasy when seeking someone whose abilities are even less in supply than these folks?

Graphic artists, illustrators, painters, etc., are skilled tradesmen. As such, to consider them as, or deal with them as, anything less than professionals fully deserving of your respect is both insulting and a bad reflection on you as a sane, reasonable person. In short, it makes you look like a twit.

A few things you need to know;

1. It is not a “great opportunity” for an artist to have his work seen on your car/’zine/website/bedroom wall, etc. It IS a “great opportunity” for YOU to have their work there.

2. It is not clever to seek a “student” or “beginner” in an attempt to get work for free. It’s ignorant and insulting. They may be “students”, but that does not mean they don’t deserve to be paid for their hard work. You were a “student” once, too. Would you have taken that job at McDonalds with no pay, because you were learning essential job skills for the real world? Yes, your proposition it JUST as stupid.

3. The chance to have their name on something that is going to be seen by other people, whether it’s one or one million, is NOT a valid enticement. Neither is the right to add that work to their portfolio. They get to do those things ANYWAY, after being paid as they should. It’s not compensation. It’s their right, and it’s a given.

4. Stop thinking that you’re giving them some great chance to work. Once they skip over your silly ad, as they should, the next ad is usually for someone who lives in the real world, and as such, will pay them. There are far more jobs needing these skills than there are people who possess these skills.

5. Students DO need “experience”. But they do NOT need to get it by giving their work away. In fact, this does not even offer them the experience they need. Anyone who will not/can not pay them is obviously the type of person or business they should be ashamed to have on their resume anyway. Do you think professional contractors list the “experience” they got while nailing down a loose step at their grandmother’s house when they were seventeen?

If you your company or gig was worth listing as desired experience, it would be able to pay for the services it received. The only experience they will get doing free work for you is a lesson learned in what kinds of scrubs they should not lower themselves to deal with.

6. (This one is FOR the artists out there, please pay attention.) Some will ask you to “submit work for consideration”. They may even be posing as some sort of “contest”. These are almost always scams. They will take the work submitted by many artists seeking to win the “contest”, or be “chosen” for the gig, and find what they like most. They will then usually have someone who works for them, or someone who works incredibly cheap because they have no originality or talent of their own, reproduce that same work, or even just make slight modifications to it, and claim it as their own. You will NOT be paid, you will NOT win the contest. The only people who win, here, are the underhanded folks who run these ads. This is speculative, or “spec”, work. It’s risky at best, and a complete scam at worst. I urge you to avoid it, completely.

So to artists/designers/illustrators looking for work, do everyone a favor, ESPECIALLY yourselves, and avoid people who do not intend to pay you. Whether they are “spec” gigs, or just some guy who wants a free mural on his living room walls. They need you. You do NOT need them. Say NO to free art.

And for those who are looking for someone to do work for free… please wake up and join the real world. The only thing you’re accomplishing is to insult those with the skills you need. Get a clue.


If you agree with the above important information, please pass it along. The more people know, the faster we can correct this problem.

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:iconthephantomdragon:
wow i like that

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:iconvenomeye:
Very strong message here, and I agree with this. Not to mention the growing number of corporate industries just stealing art they find for their own use with absolutely no attempts to find the original artist.

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Ah i'm glad to see this again. C: `Wen-M posted this in his journal maybe two years ago or so, and it was a strong message back then, definitely no less now.

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wow!! very strong and true^^ thank you for sharing! this opened my eyes about how the world treats artists, illustrators etc. what you've written is so true! it was a very nice thin to read^^ :D

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:iconaiyume:
Oh, that point you added is also so true!
:iconvenomeye:
It's sad how low they're willing to go for free art. Like it grows on trees or something. They have no idea.

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