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HOW YOU RELATE TO CRITIQUES

*Darkmir:iconDarkmir: reports, March 18
Posted this a while back on the ART SCENE forum... got a lot of good responses. Figured it might help out a few more if I post it here.

Cheers!

There are a ton of young people on Deviant, and the simple truth is that many of them, although they may possess well developed opinions regarding critiques, DO NOT understand how they are used or applied in the real world.

School is not the real world. Neither is home, and the web is DEFINITELY not the real world.

What is the purpose of a critique?

Well, one purpose it is not required fulfill is to make you feel good about your work. If the sole result of a delivered critique is that is makes you feel good about your work, it is not a critique, it is an ACCOLADE.

A critique serves two principle functions in the real world.

One; it serves to educate. It points out areas in your work that need attention and possible improvement, and, at the very least, may deserve further practice or repetition on your part to perfect.

Two: it serves to describe the differences between how you see your work, and how another sees it. This can be also very educational to anyone who truly attempts to derive the most from any opportunity to learn more about their craft.

What form should a critique take?

That is entirely dependent upon the circumstances or venue in which the critique is delivered. However, any true critique is inherently negative. If it were not, it would not be instructional. There is no purpose in informing you, the artist, about those aspects of your work you got right.

Most students are coming to grips with their own view of their art. Couple this with the fact that even many successful artists remain insecure about the quality of their work, and it becomes easy to see why most artists are touchy about critiques.

This is a bad thing, and cannot be justified by anyone claiming to be professional in their work. Whatever else you may justify regarding how you view your art, you do not have the right to ignore or limit input on it from qualified sources simply because you have an innate need to always "feel good" about yourself or your work.

Just about nothing you can do as an artist is LESS professional.

Let me offer a small warning to all you beginning artists out there:

The closer you get to actually making a living with your work, the more realistic and thick skinned you better become about getting critiques. I am an art director. I have been one for more than 15 years. Over the years, I have worked with dozens of young professional artists, designers, and illustrators. More often than not, those young talents have left my service to go on to make more money and enjoy more prestige within their field of work than those that have not. So, I consider myself to be both a successful art director, and a pretty good critic.

Working critiques are to the point. They are almost always delivered by someone who knows more than you do about the kind of work you are trying to do or learn. A working critique is blunt and precise. The point is to make surgical corrections. In a working environment, time is the most important factor in any successful design job. This is true when delivering critiques as well.

Depending on the job, "not good enough... do it again." is an acceptable critique.

Generally speaking, working critiques are designed to get fast, predictable, measurable results. As an art director, I do not have time to take an artist's feelings into consideration. I do not mean I am harsh simply for the sake of expediency, I mean that the primary goal is to make the "job" work out right, not re-enforce the ego of the artist.

It is also important for young artists to remember that the person delivering a critique to you, once you leave school, is almost certainly a lot more experienced than you are, and is also paid to oversee what is produced in the art department. Their opinion is almost certainly guaranteed to be valued more by ownership or upper management than yours is. It is in your best interests, both as an artist and as an employee, to listen to any critique of your work offered by such a person.

Bottom line: get really thick skin. Learn to depersonalize your work. Treat it as a commodity, even if you are an amateur or not a commercially oriented artist, and you will get a lot more out of critiques than you are now. Take the hits, review your work after getting them, and try to limit your defense of a piece.

While it is not universally true that defending a piece means you cannot accept a critique, it usually does mean that you are too busy defending to really learn what is there to learn from the critique in the first place.

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:iconnomadikk:
Good stuff. Unfortunately, deviantART is a circle-jerk community of comments like "wow," "neat," "kawaii," etc.
I think a big part of this problem though is the age bracket of the majority of the users. I think that a good majority are really young, and really don't have any critical input to share, so we are left with all these ultra-fuzzy feeling comments.
:iconshiroboi:
I think this is a great article and everything is right on the money. I think you are coming at it from an art director standpoint though. If you're getting paid to do a job then you need to have thick skin and depersonalize yourself from your craft. However, I put private artwork and private critique into a separate category. I received some very harsh critique one time from a teacher that belittled me in front of the whole class. It was a 20 minute tear down session. While I passed the class, I had zero desire to ever pick up a camera artistically again. If a critique done in a mean spirited manner it can definitely cause damage and that goes against the entire point of the critique. I keep my critiques somewhat positive, usually starting out talking about some element of the piece that is good. That usually lets them lower their defenses a bit and opens their ears to hear the negative parts that follow. Most people can take critique if it seems that the person is genuinely trying to help them.

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Critiques are very important for any artist, since they are the main way to know how to improve on one's art. Even experts can benefit since if one isn't getting better, one is probably getting worse.

I agree with most of what you said, but a critique, while it does point out negative aspects of the work, can be said in a positive way. This'll get your point across much better, and only takes 15 more seconds at most if it's a long critique. At the very least, that's my experience on a non-professional level. Things are probably different on an expert level.

Though personally, I wish more people would tell me what's wrong with my art or what I can work on. even if it is just something like, "No. Do it again & do the shading right next time."
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About the critiques, I feel a little dissapointed that having good artists watching me that could help me get better they usually say "oh how cute" or "wow" or things like that. I don´t pay attention to this comments because in the bottom of it they don´t help me more than to build up my self confidence. I would love (and did when it happened) that someone point me out things like "that shoulder is slightly unbalanced" , "that posture seems a little weird to me", " that isn´t the color I would´ve chosen for the background", if this happens I talk to the person and ask him/her about the reasons to say that and I try to learn as much as I can from critiques. By the way, I have one more thing to say, don´t be afraid of pointing out some defect on a drawing just because you think that the artist is better than you, personally I give critiques to everyone and hope that everyone could critique me...

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:icongrimjak:
now that is well said !! and indeed a good out look .. I feel the same way

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The critique sandwich!
a good way to do private none commercial work!
But as Dark has pointed in the commercial world there just isn't the time or money (
profit being the driving factor here )to spend on such things.

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Wait a Sec...let me get this Right? your a Rhinoplasty surgeon for earth worms?? Uhm?

What was right before you left, just left, right before you came

No matter how hard you try...you just can't bounce a meatball!
:icongrimjak:
indeed

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What was right before you left, just left, right before you came

No matter how hard you try...you just can't bounce a meatball!
:icondarkmir:
I shouldn't have to tell you that that was not a valid critique. I never tear down anyone when I critique their work. I'm a serious minded adult and an art director. I am NOT a sadist.

If what you say is the absolute truth, the teacher shouldn't be teaching.

However, I disagree with your statement that "private" art should fall into a different category. A valid, well considered critique is still the best, even if you are the rankest amateur. At least it is if you want to improve. The fact that it is not for money, or a serious work, is beside the point.

I have come to realize, since I first posted this about a month ago, that I did not stress the differences between a pro level critique and one given to an amateur enough. Yes, there are differences, but the gist of the article was to point out to young people that they often miss the opportunity to benefit from a critique because they are so busy defending against it.

Since writing this, I have been asked to do about a hundred critiques. Not one of those people has anything to say afterward but thanks. This is spite of the fact that I feel I really tore apart the majority of the works I looked at. I was not cruel, but I was.... thorough. I was also completely respectful of the effort put into each piece I reviewed, and professional in every way.

Look, it's just impossible to cover every single little nuance of a topic in anything less than a 400 page book. And even then, you are going to piss people off for not including this, and not including that. My articles and posts are offered freely, in the spirit of helping, and in an attempt to pass on to others some of the great lessons I have learned (mostly the hard way), in my journey as an artist.

Those who read what I write are absolutely free to disregard every word.

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:icondarkmir:
No doubt, Nomad.

I am here primarily for 3 reasons:

1, several of my long time friends from my career warehouse art here. Since joining, I've reconnected with on an intimate level with them, after years apart.

2, The number of artists of all types showing work here is vast. Even with it's faults, if you dig deep enough on deviant, you can find as many like-minded people as you wish.

3, I use it as an opportunity to "pass on what I have learned"... as the little green guy said.

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:iconshiroboi:
Right, I never said I disagreed with anything in your post, it was right on the money. Ultimately, if you're being thorough and telling people the truth about their artwork in a thoughtful manner, it doesn't really matter how you sugarcoat it. My point was, even if you're ripping apart a piece, which is okay to do, people respond better if you sugar coat it a bit. Just makes it a little easier, especially for the amateur to swallow.

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