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Feelings Of Autumn Contest Winners

*Live-Love-Write:iconLive-Love-Write: reports, 23h 52m ago
Feelings of Autumn Contest Winners from *Live-Love-Write
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Gaia Online is Hiring!

*Derlaine8:iconDerlaine8: reports, 1d 15h ago
Gaia Online is Hiring!

Open Admin Positions!

*Live-Love-Write:iconLive-Love-Write: reports, December 2
Admin Positions Open for *Live-Love-Write
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Feelings of Autumn Finalists

*Live-Love-Write:iconLive-Love-Write: reports, December 1
Feelings of Autumn Contest Finalist

*Live-Love-Write

The Wonderful World's Fire and Ice Contest

=Wonderful-World:iconWonderful-World: reports, November 30
The Wonderful-World Club :iconwonderful-world: would like to annouce the launch of the "Fire and Ice" Contest for its members.

Agregada categoría "Members" a los Grupos en dA.

#noticias:iconnoticias: reports, November 24
De acuerdo con el blog del Staff de deviantART, una nueva categoría de miembros ha sido agregada a los futuros Grupos. La misma, denominada Members (miembros), tendrá la habilidad de contribuir a los grupos pero no poderes de moderación. Para más información (en inglés), haz click en el título de esta noticia.



Noticia preparada para =noticias por `kasumichan2003.

Some updates and features on *project-improve!

=project-improve:iconproject-improve: reports, November 23
*project-improve has been a bit quiet over the past few weeks, but we plan on kicking that up now!

We're looking for new members for our team, explaining a bit about the process, and featuring some great work in this article!

*Critique-It: CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS

*Critique-It:iconCritique-It: reports, November 20
Information about *Critique-It's first live workshop chat for Literature! We need four pieces to feature in the chat. Get the details about submitting yours inside this article. Don't forget to his the :+favlove:!
6 comments   Happenings  Last +fav: `ATrue

*Critique-It: Progress Report 11/19/09

*Critique-It:iconCritique-It: reports, November 19
*Critique-It's now bi-weekly progress report with important updates about club activities, a new tutorial feature, and information from our affiliates. Please :+favlove: this article!

Happenings This Week

The Wonderful World's Fire and Ice Contest

=Wonderful-World:iconWonderful-World: reports, November 30
The Wonderful-World Club :iconwonderful-world: would like to annouce the launch of the "Fire and Ice" Contest for its members.

Gaia Online is Hiring!

*Derlaine8:iconDerlaine8: reports, 1d 15h ago
Gaia Online is Hiring!

Feelings of Autumn Finalists

*Live-Love-Write:iconLive-Love-Write: reports, December 1
Feelings of Autumn Contest Finalist

*Live-Love-Write

Open Admin Positions!

*Live-Love-Write:iconLive-Love-Write: reports, December 2
Admin Positions Open for *Live-Love-Write
6 comments   Happenings  Last +fav: ~Max-CCCP

Feelings Of Autumn Contest Winners

*Live-Love-Write:iconLive-Love-Write: reports, 23h 52m ago
Feelings of Autumn Contest Winners from *Live-Love-Write
7 comments   Happenings  Last +fav: ~Max-CCCP

Carta de agradecimiento

=ElClubdelaPalabra:iconElClubdelaPalabra: reports, 14h 7m ago
Una new importante, que espero que todos leáis.

Respecting Daily Deviations

~Pentacle5:iconPentacle5: reports, 13h 15m ago
I've been noticing for a long time a serious lack of respect in the deviantART community towards those who have been awarded daily deviations. I'm not talking about constructive criticism; I'm talking about utter disrespect for the artist from saying that the piece featured did not deserve the daily deviation to declaring that the model depicted is too thin or too fat to claiming the content of the art is wrong based on someone's narrow opinion. Enough is enough.

ART THEIF AHOY!

*guumijuice:iconguumijuice: reports, November 29
If you spot an art thief, or are suspicious that somebody is an art thief, report them. Inside this article is the thief, the examples of the theft and how to spot an art thief.

Please take a stand against art thieves dA

Music fans, be very afraid!"

~LinkMasterJ:iconLinkMasterJ: reports, December 1
In 2010, ISPs will be turned into copyright cops and be required by law to filter out anything they think might be pirated material. This will mean monitoring sites that offer user-created material. Given the enormity and complexity of that requirement, consider the chill that will cast over music sites, even perfectly legal ones. Could many of them be forced out of business? What about bands who give away music?

Happenings


About Fans, friends, followers and watchers.

~htfcuddles:iconhtfcuddles: reports, May 12
Hi again, my dears.
Yes, I bother you with a news article. Is an improved version of what I've said in a journal time ago, grabbing the feedback I had, and hoping that now be good not only for some watchers.

It's about friends, fans, followers and watchers.

Let's say. When you come here, to DeviantART, generally you start to make relations with other persons. And your art uploading speed isn't high, seeing that lots of times, you don't get any comments for your first deviations. That's normal.

Sometimes I think that without watchers, without people commenting you and without help from inside dA, you shouldn't upload much art quickly, because when someone joins to your gallery, see it full of uncommented pics, and the first feeling is a feeling of pity. But in the other hand, not uploading anything is a bad way to begin. I mean. If I can't see your art, how could I know if you're an artist of my interest?

I disagree with those people that registers here only for comment and not uploading anything. Even if sometimes, licking feet they finally finish becoming friends of super-awesome artists. But well, that's my opinion.

Now, let's suppose that you uploaded some pics. You have 4 pics in your gallery, all of them with a decent quality. You get your first watcher. The typical unwritten etiquette laws says that you -at least in the beginning- must to thank the people that faves your pic. That shows that you thank the other person for taking some seconds and watching what you've done.

In a blog, getting other's attention is harder because that requires reading, and not much people will take the time to read. That's the reason why lots of blogs have shocking titles, for inviting you to read them.

Now, if your art is good, and you upload in small ammounts, you'll start to get your first watchers. Watchers are the people that adds you to their deviantwatch. Having a watcher with more time than you in dA is a treasure, because that person will be your judge and your feedback for some time.

(Even if this person is from "fav'n'run").

Now, let's suppose you have more art and more watchers. You get about 0-2 comments per pic, but you have 4 or 5 watchers. Is time for... a journal.

A journal is a kind of blog in which you speak of whatever you want -following the rules, of course. You can speak about how was your day, about what you'd like, about how much you appreciate your watchers or whatever.

I strongly discourage writing journals -and update them- if you have only 1 or 2 watchers, because that will only annoy them. Is like, in the school, the kid that's hungry for attention. It bothers.

But when you have more watchers, journals become an useful tool, because with it you can show to the others how are you.

Now, let's imagine that, after some months, you have more art and more watchers. Putting a number, let's imagine that your art is good, and you have 12 watchers and about 15 pieces of art. Maybe some of the first watchers stop watching you. But from those ones you'll start to create your relationship circle. Generally when you're starting on dA, you'll watch back everybody, so, you'll know -a bit- to your watchers.

You'll not notice when more and more people start to watch you. And of course, while all this happens, you'll continue uploading art and receiving comments and favs. Now, you'll feel more trusty and you'll feel better as for uploading more things. And with the regular commenters you'll grow a feeling of trust. Is possible than later you'll start to share MSN or e-mail address.

After that, and after speaking and discussing, knowing yourselves, those watchers will start to be friends.

And as long you become more popular, you'll see that from your watchers, only some of them want to be your friends. And it's okay. If you're an awesome artist but a crap of person, people will watch, possibly will comment, but they will not want to be your friends. Except a special kind of watcher, the feetlicker. I'll speak of it later.

If you're a normal artist but a good person, you'll have lots of friends, and in very high possibilities, the friends will be more than just the watchers.

Now, as long you become more and more popular, you'll met more people. And the cyber-popularity is so dangerous as the real popularity.

First than anything, because you'll start to feel that you're more important than how you really are. Second, because feetlickers will appear.

Feetlickers are the people that comments you, and always will celebrate all what you do. If you do an awesome piece, they'll celebrate it. If you make a shit, they'll celebrate it. If you say nice things, they'll always will find you that you're right and you're awesome. If you throw shit, they'll always will find you that you're right and you're awesome. If you rant, they will rant with you. If you say that killing is good and that thieves are awesome, they'll agree with you. Feetlickers normally follow awesome artists, or people with more than 100K pageviews. And that isn't nice.

Isn't nice because:
1. You could start to think that all what you do is right, doesn't matter what.
2. You start to lose the good feedback between the nonsensed approvals.

For this you could request for critique, but that isn't good at all because not everybody takes the time to write one.

And now, let's go with the other kind of users.
To this point, is more than possible that you have followers and fans, and those aren't the same.
Followers are the people that watched you, and it knows what you're doing. They know how you're progressing, how you're improving in your art, because they're looking it.
Simple example, I'm a follower of *marykonoha since November 2007. Sometimes you can -as her sometimes- forget that you have followers or who are them. But they are, and they're watching you.

The nicest thing about them is that, when you do something that isn't right, or that they think isn't good, they'll send you a note in private, telling you what they think, and they'll offer suggestions to you for improve. If you love art, care them... because they will help you to improve in things that sometimes you never thought you could.

The fans are different. Fans is the people that watch you, and it's pending of everything that you do. They are the ones that discover your accounts in other websites, the ones that discover if you have a hidden blog, the ones that discover where do you live, and the ones that knows if you're going to draw something, the ones that know how many times you go to the toilet.

Fans generally are awesome for raising your self esteem, but the sad point is that lots of times fans evolve into feetlickers. You must to try to avoid that.

Finally, the last thing. The process of becoming a "famous" deviant isn't fast. I have about 2 years here and still I'm not super known. But I've saw the things I've described by myself. I'd like to know if this help you, new deviant, to feel comfortable in a community that sometimes seems close and harsh. Close because deviants speak only to their friends, and harsh because when nobody speaks to you, nobody favs what you do, or nobody is interested in what you do, you feel kinda rejected. Is a common feeling in newbie artists.

I'd like to share my personal list of 5 things that I like to see in artists that become famous.

1. Don't be selfish.

You're a person, but the people under you... they are persons too. The path to fame is hard? For them will be hard too. A present, a gift, is always a powerful mood-raiser. If you see a deviant that has possibilities of being awesome in a future, that's following you because you're like an example, give him a gift pic. If you see that a special date is coming, do a holiday pic. Things like that could change -or save- a life. Probed by personal experience.

Even if you don't have time for making a gift for all your watchers personally (and I'm not saying you must to do gifts to every one of them), you could, as example, once a year, making a group pic with all the watchers you like.

2. Humbling.

Never forget that you started from the lower. Every famous deviant started from nothing. When you're famous and known by everybody, give to the new artists hope that they'll someday will be like you, if they admire you.

3. Make your watchers participate WITH you.

If you're a subscriber, polls are for that. You can ask something, they will answer and will comment. Reply to them. You aren't a person that see everybody like a piece of mood in their shoes, isn't?

If you have money, time, both or whatever, make people participate in contests hold by you.

4. The Reply button. Respect.

I know it's hard to answer. Over all if you get 450 daily messages with replies to you. But do it.
When you're famous, isn't mandatory that you thank for all the favs you get, but at least thank to the people that watch you. And reply to the comments. You are here, you aren't in a distant universe far of the others.

You are a person like every other deviant. Also, if you receive a gift, say thanks. If an user helped you with something, thank him. "Thank you" is the most easy-to-say thing, and can change the vision that people has from you.

Oh, by the way. A suggestion: Use emotes; they exist for something. Is much more nice a "thank you c:" or "thanks! =D" than just a "thanks."

5. Respect.

Don't act like you're the goddess of all the people watching you. That is disgusting. Unless you do it in a journal and the people obviously know that you're joking.

Aside note, remember that you aren't perfect. And what you think, believe or want, doesn't means that others will think, believe or want the same. You can share your thoughts and beliefs, but have in mind that people could disagree, and that's OK. What we want is tolerance. With tolerance, comes respect.

Peace and love.



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By the way, something very important: People don't watch only for the sake of watching. People watches because they liked how is your art (or sometimes watching back). When you make a pic, make efforted pics, that show how much you worked on them.

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:iconrambofox1:
Also, troll (well, not troll - but go and post allot of comments) on plz accounts - especially the popular ones.

:iconimhappiestplz:

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I have been banned for using "multiple accounts".
I have only two - that being !RamboFox (broken) and this one.

The troll accounts !SpiritualRocker and others have nothing to do with me.

Please help me D=
EMAIL alterknives@gmail.com
:iconhtfcuddles:
That's a way to quickly advertise yourself =P

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"I am of the idea that if you can't stand critique or accept even suggestions, you don't have any reason to be registered in an art website (regardless how good or bad it is that website)." --Anonymous about Vaporotem
:iconrambofox1:
I know ;D

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I have been banned for using "multiple accounts".
I have only two - that being !RamboFox (broken) and this one.

The troll accounts !SpiritualRocker and others have nothing to do with me.

Please help me D=
EMAIL alterknives@gmail.com
:iconduo2nd:
Great. This helps.
NOW HOW CAN I ELIMINATE MY TROLL PROBLEM.

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I am Pokemon #490 Manaphy in DA's Pokemon Crew

You called?
:iconmisspiika:
...This was nice to read over, it was written in a very polite way too. ^_^ And uh, thanks for reminding me to actually reply to my messages, too. I gotta work on that. lD

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~Piika siggy number 3. X3
"Start your day in a healthy way, EGGS, EGGS, EGGS!"
Fortunately for you, Max the Super Bunny sees through this evil scheme and will protect you from any harm dealt by dairy products. ^_^
:iconhtfcuddles:
That kid is just being unrespectful against you and your art, apart to the cynicism.
Go to his profile, and now that he posted into his journal that you're mean, reply to him. Post a long comment, explaining why you're angry with him, what he did and so. And if you can, copy that comment into your own journal (only in case that this user hides your comment or that report you due to "harassment" or something).

Here the thing is showing what he did without being you punished for what he did.

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"I am of the idea that if you can't stand critique or accept even suggestions, you don't have any reason to be registered in an art website (regardless how good or bad it is that website)." --Anonymous about Vaporotem
:iconlovethelord0922:
I totally agree. Best News article ever. :thumbsup:

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A quiet scares me 'cause it screams the truth
Please don't tell me we had that conversation
'Cause I won't remember
Save your breath
'Cause what's the use?
Ahhh, Ahh The night is callin'
It whispers to me softly, 'Come and Play'
:iconduo2nd:
But HE blocked me!
How can I reply to him when I'M blocked?

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I am Pokemon #490 Manaphy in DA's Pokemon Crew

You called?
:iconhtfcuddles:
Oh, that put the things under a new light.
Do you have any of your old accounts alive? I doubt he blocked all of them. Over all if he's so innocent as he tries to appear to be.

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"I am of the idea that if you can't stand critique or accept even suggestions, you don't have any reason to be registered in an art website (regardless how good or bad it is that website)." --Anonymous about Vaporotem
:iconduo2nd:
I think he did blocked all of them. SO I can't rant against him

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I am Pokemon #490 Manaphy in DA's Pokemon Crew

You called?
 

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