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I firmly believe that we are doing a disservice to the next generation of artists by failing to appreciate and advance the artwork and techniques practiced in the past. To follow post-modern beliefs, in that we have nothing to learn from the past, is to function at the height of arrogance and ego. The previous generations of artists have left us a legacy of work that is not only breathtaking but ambitious, and yet under the auspices of post-modernism, I have heard such masterpieces by artists such as Vermeer, Rembrandt, Raphael and others, referred to as naïve and nothing more then an exercise in technique.

Many university systems are producing artists that can neither draw nor paint, lacking the technical skills necessary to bring their ideas to successful fruition. Students graduate never having seen a demonstration in the technical applications of drawing nor painting. They have bought into the belief that instruction would inhibit their natural tendencies and creativity as artists. Rather then benefiting from knowledge that has been honed and perfected through countless generations of artists, they are left on their own to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Frustration at lacking the skill to bring their ideas to life, many fail where otherwise they would have succeeded. Students are left to paint from ignorance rather then from knowledge, while the techniques of the masters slowly slip from our grasp.

As a formalist, I believe in a strong foundation of anatomy, drawing, composition, color and technique. This can be taught to any student that has the diligence to learn just as any other skill. Some will naturally advance faster then others, talent is but a stepping-stone and in the end hard work will get you farther. There are no shortcuts; it takes time, effort and patience to advance. I liken not teaching the basics of drawing and proportion to an artist as similar to teaching two-point perspective to an architect and then expecting them to design a stable building. Would you stand in that structure with confidence?

The only measure of a successful instructor is the work of his/her students. Throughout history there have been few masters who produced the quality in their students for which they themselves were known. I believe we are currently undergoing a resurgence of the humanitarian love of form and beauty that gave birth to the Renaissance. You can see this movement afoot with the growing popularity of Ateliers and Classical Art Academies that are springing up around the world, in response to a need for more academic training. At a time when University enrollment in art programs are decreasing and budgets are being cut, Ateliers and flourishing. We are now at a crossroads, the fork you choose to take is your own…

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:iconklazien:
I totally agree !
:iconkarlandrews:
Drawing fundamentals are the foundations in which we can thrive and come back to after experimental abstract conceptualization fails. Having no basic drawing skills could be likened to a helicopter left at sea without a pad to land on. This is what I believe.

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:iconthewindwraith:
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for saying this! I have been *so* incredibly frustrated in my classes as most of my professors believe that conceptual art is the "only way to go" valuing the idea/concept over style/technique. Where I very much want to learn classical and traditional forms of art making I have been sneered at more than I care to think of, by both students and in some cases, instructors at the school alike. It's very frustrating -- I would dearly love to attend a European school of art for the formal art training they provide but finances would never allow it. *sigh* Ah well. I'm painstakingly blundering on my own and taking art history classes to assist. Not all profs are like this, but considerably more than expected for such a well renowned school. It makes me sad. I'm by no means the most talented in the school by any stretch of the imagination -- but I'm not without some talent.
:iconjangmai:
Started my art foundation this month with 3 weeks drawing course. It's surprising how many people believed that they can not, and will not be able to draw even when they've enroled for a full time art course.

I myself have really quite enjoyed drawing for 3 weeks with a more personal focus on accuracy and technique rather than composition/concept. A very well written piece :)

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:iconelloi:
This is what has made me wish so many times that I had picked going to an Atelier over actually going for an art degree at a university. While I understand that thinking about concept and idea is as much a part of a good education as anything else, I find myself often more frustrated over a lack of polished technique keeping me from expressing my "concepts" accurately, than the whole creativity and expression holding me back.

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Keep your chin up, and your nose down.
:icondiinzumo:
Man, I wish your methodology had been taught at my university. I went in with the erroneous assumption I would be taught techniques for drawing and painting. One drawing class did that. The rest... I got my degree, gave up art, and went to find a "real job."

Bitter art student is bitter.
:iconborntothevoid:
I've read this article, and i'm sorry to say its completely one sided.
It devalues any art that is not taught technique by technique, and leaves little room for self expression, without which the artist is hindered, trying to act mechanically like a camera. This does not suit many artists or designers.

In any other university level course a certain degree of artistic skill is necessary upon entry, and any foundation level college course should give instruction in drawing and painting suitable for degree level courses.

Seen in this light, it is not the tutors who teach who fail, but perhaps the admissions dept, and students who undertake a degree lacking in the drawing and painting skills necessary.

I am not a huge fan of conceptual art, and yes, its a shame when any one discipline recieves so much attention when other, more traditional arts aremistakenly treated as if they are in decline, but to say that modern colleges are failing their students is a blanket statement, opinionated and not dealing with fact.

Every degree show that i have been to has shown a variety of different styles, not just modern/post modern. If the tutors have pushed for a certain level of artistry in ideas, then the result has often been paintings or sculptures that are both figurative and suggestive or evocative of the idea behind them.

Every student i knew that studied fine art had the opportunity to draw or paint, from their first year through to their degree show. It was up to them which route they took.

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:icondarronlee:
self expression cant be taught. its up to an art teacher to give his or her student the tools or knowledge to express them selves.
:iconborntothevoid:
if self expression cant be taught, and it is one of the most important things an artist can learn, then college/uni teachers cant be faulted for not teaching it.

...on the other hand, a lot of artists learn to express themselves at art college, where they are in a creative environment and surrounded by creative people. Whether they are learning from a group or an individual, something teaches people to express themselves.

It cant be innate knowledge or there would be no need to practice. :)

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if art is the new fashion, and brown is the new black, and neon is the new brown, then the cliche makers are retarded and colourblind, and should be locked under the stairs....
 

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